Matte Black Rims fading? *Pics*

[Brutal SS]

It's frustrating to fork out this amount of bank and have this happen! Wheels, particularly in this price range, should not be so sensitive to anything that is reasonably to be expected to come into contact with. Or at least the manufacturer should provide specific warnings prior to purchase about this from the jump!

If you pay that much for something that is designed to roll across the ground, you would expect that it would stand up better than that. Wheel manufacturer FAIL!

OP, I share some of your frustration. I have a black billet grille, that I think is powdercoated, which has become faded and chalky looking. I wonder if this Adam's spray would help?

[Pentatonic]

Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Car wash? Thats your first problem.

Yea, TOTALLY! I mean, a car wash; a place that you go to...wash...cars. I mean, WHAT WAS HE THINKING? *spits out chewing tobacco* Everyone knows that you shouldn't get your car washed at a car wash.

/sarcasm

Seriously though, this is BS on the part of Forgeline. Forgeline needs to put a warning label on each of these wheels to make it abundantly clear that cleaners that are sold in auto parts stores for use on normal cars and cleaners used at some car washes can ruin a matte black wheel finish. Obviously this guy isn't the first to have this happen to him.

[Cody6.2]

As many have said already obviously there is chemical damage here. I know that if you use the wax option at my local car washes it will turn black trim into what your wheels look like.

[nightshift]

Originally Posted by Andys562

I'm not using wheel cleaners but my local car wash puts dressing on my tires. I don't think it really touches the wheel

I'd be willing to bet if you're going through a car wash (which is crazy. Those things are murder on your paint), depending on the wash you buy, they are using "Wheel Bright" or some sort of wheel cleaner as is goes through the wash.

[nUcLeArEnVoY]

A good thing to use when using tire cleaners (because those are usually pretty harsh if they stay on wheels too long) is to place one of those rubber rim edge protectors that usually come with brand new wheels in the box on the edge of the wheel, so that will prevent the tire cleaner from dripping onto the wheel. You just gotta aim every spray shot for the tire, which is easy.

I just tried it for the first time yesterday and in the end, even though I used tire cleaner, the only thing that touched my wheels were car wash shampoo and water. I don't have matte black wheels, but my AR Torq-Thrusts are notorious for cleatcoat peeling on the machined lip, and I've had to two exchanges as a result.

This time it shouldn't happen, though, because I also applied Opti-Coat 2.0 to the lips.

[Andys562]

Just emailed Forgestar TechSupport right now... But look what I stumbled upon on their website...

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheelcare.php

[Andys562]

I emailed Forgestar TechSupport and this is the response I got:


Hello Andy,
All of our wheel care information is and has been on our website http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheelcare.php . Unfortunately the isn’t anything we can do because who knows what the car wash uses with tire shine or any type of degreaser that caused the wheels to fade. The is the first case I have seen someone have an issue with the Matte Black powdercoat and by the looks of the streaks on the wheels it looks like they used an abrasive cleaner.

[Pentatonic]

They need to put a warning label right on the wheels when you first purchase them. You shouldn't have to go to their website to figure out that you can't get your car washed at a car wash.

[Andys562]

That's what I think... I guess there's nothing I can do about it.

Can anyone give me more insight on those Adams products?

[Brutal SS]

For the amount of money people pay for these wheels, they should be able to withstand nuclear waste!

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by Pentatonic

They need to put a warning label right on the wheels when you first purchase them. You shouldn't have to go to their website to figure out that you can't get your car washed at a car wash.

GM should do the same thing with the paint on our cars. People who care about their how their car looks usually know not to go to car washes.

Originally Posted by Andys562

That's what I think... I guess there's nothing I can do about it.

Can anyone give me more insight on those Adams products?

www.adamspolishes.com

Originally Posted by Brutal SS

For the amount of money people pay for these wheels, they should be able to withstand nuclear waste!

These are actually the lowest priced custom wheels I have ever seen. They are at least 1/3 the price of most other custom wheels.

[zkdreads]

Originally Posted by Andys562

I emailed Forgestar TechSupport and this is the response I got:


Hello Andy,
All of our wheel care information is and has been on our website http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheelcare.php . Unfortunately the isn’t anything we can do because who knows what the car wash uses with tire shine or any type of degreaser that caused the wheels to fade. The is the first case I have seen someone have an issue with the Matte Black powdercoat and by the looks of the streaks on the wheels it looks like they used an abrasive cleaner.

damn shouldve told them your using soap and water. what if you get a letter from the car wash stating what they use. will that help. because all there saying is they DONT KNOW. but when there told whats being used will the change what there saying.

[Pentatonic]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

GM should do the same thing with the paint on our cars. People who care about their how their car looks usually know not to go to car washes.

No, GM wouldn't need to put a warning about not taking the car through a car wash. There's a difference between aging a paint-job slightly quicker and literally destroying the finish. GM's paint job won't get destroyed by a couple of visits to the car wash like the Forgestar wheels have.

I've taken my GM daily driver cars through automatic car washes on a regular basis for years and the paint-finish is still fine. The paint-job isn't as meticulous as the Camaro's, but it's still perfectly acceptable given the hard usage and Michigan winters.

[Brutal SS]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

These are actually the lowest priced custom wheels I have ever seen. They are at least 1/3 the price of most other custom wheels.

That may be true, but even wheels on the lower tier should not be so sensitive. Even a $500 set of wheels should be able to stand up to things like soap.

[caper]

seems like forgestar is passing on the buck...wheels should be able to go through a damn car wash...and deal with some chemicals, especially WHEEL cleaner - they roll around in the rain and pavement and puddles all day...shame on them imo for not standing behind a product that was used as intended an has obvious issues with durability.

the simple fact that you are the first with this issue, shows more that it was a faulty product, because i am pretty sure others go through car washes with theirs too! and apparently without issues.

[Brutal SS]

Originally Posted by caper

seems like forgestar is passing on the buck...wheels should be able to go through a damn car wash...and deal with some chemicals, especially WHEEL cleaner - they roll around in the rain and pavement and puddles all day...shame on them imo for not standing behind a product that was used as intended an has obvious issues with durability.

[redhotcandy]

That sucks, but maybe for an inexpensive fix until you want to shell out the money for a repaint, you could PlastiDip them...I've had that happen to the black metal door frame on a car I had. Could never get it to become dark black again, always stayed a dark dull gray. I hated it. But I would think that wheels such as yours would stand up to a car wash! I have matte black/red wheels and so far so good. I've had them on a year now. Good luck.

[zkdreads]

Originally Posted by redhotcandy

That sucks, but maybe for an inexpensive fix until you want to shell out the money for a repaint, you could PlastiDip them...I've had that happen to the black metal door frame on a car I had. Could never get it to become dark black again, always stayed a dark dull gray. I hated it. But I would think that wheels such as yours would stand up to a car wash! I have matte black/red wheels and so far so good. I've had them on a year now. Good luck.

[Andys562]

Which product in particular do you guys recommend?

I'm going order something tonight.

[jonathanmoguel]

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[alanhurst]

i see some here bashing for using a car wash. You have to remember we all have different lifestyles and some of us cant just wash our cars in the front yard/driveway.

I currently live in an apt complex with year round swimming/gym etc but washing your car here is a huge no no as is detailing the interior. Pets are allowed here and they dont want someones dog stopping in your washwater for a drink.

i have to use the no touch car wash and i do my detailing in my jobs parking lot during off hours.

the no-touch car washes (no brushes,all water jets) have yet to ever damage any car i've ever had and my 2008 escape i had used them for 4 years and the paint was good enough to get me an "excellent" rating on my trade in.

sure,if you are washing your showcar,by all means spend all day hand scrubbing it/hand waxing it/hand buffing it etc but for daily drivers (which most of us own) its overkill and a waste of time considering you will get it dirty just driving down the street or waking up to a pollen covered ride.

I too call BS with the manufacturer. unless the OP is washing his wheels with battery acid there is no way they should look this bad going through a car wash. for one the chemicals are not on any part of the car long enough to do that kind of damage.

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by alanhurst

for one the chemicals are not on any part of the car long enough to do that kind of damage.

Washing wheels that are hot from driving around is a no no. Spraying chemicals on hot wheels is even worse.

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by caper

seems like forgestar is passing on the buck...wheels should be able to go through a damn car wash...and deal with some chemicals, especially WHEEL cleaner - they roll around in the rain and pavement and puddles all day...shame on them imo for not standing behind a product that was used as intended an has obvious issues with durability.

the simple fact that you are the first with this issue, shows more that it was a faulty product, because i am pretty sure others go through car washes with theirs too! and apparently without issues.

I don't think it's right for Forgestar to say it's not their problem because the customer took the car to a car wash. It's pretty obvious that some people are going to take their car to a regular old car wash. The wheels need not stand up to sulphuric acid but I would think that for $2000 or so, they should be able to survive a couple car washes. That's like GM giving us an engine and saying 'hey, don't use full throttle because the engine might blow up'

[caper]

Originally Posted by SS 376

I don't think it's right for Forgestar to say it's not their problem because the customer took the car to a car wash. It's pretty obvious that some people are going to take their car to a regular old car wash. The wheels need not stand up to sulphuric acid but I would think that for $2000 or so, they should be able to survive a couple car washes. That's like GM giving us an engine and saying 'hey, don't use full throttle because the engine might blow up'

yep,glad i didnt go with forgstar...they should take better care of their customers than this IMO. sorry to the OP for all your troubles.

[Andys562]

no one answered my question regarding specific products. please help people. it'd mean a lot.