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camaro-dreamer · 06-29-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

That's a great run down... Wonder why all 4 magazines prefer the ZL1...

Maybe this thread has something to do with it. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233943

*mlee* · 06-29-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReaper

Because it was easier to drive is what I'm guessing.

Just looks like a slam dunk the other way to me

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Originally Posted by camaro-dreamer

Maybe this thread has something to do with it. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233943

Mmmm Kay... I'm sure that's it...

C5RocksC5 · 06-29-2012, 04:45 PM

so the GT500 pretty much takes the performance testings while the ZL1 takes the ride comfort. I am mad now.

The IOM Ninja · 06-29-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pdari

so the GT500 pretty much takes the performance testings while the ZL1 takes the ride comfort. I am mad now.

The ZL1 also some how won in the Interior Amenities, as an owner of both I'm completely confused.... Even the 13 needs a few things to bring it even close....

ihaveacamaro · 06-29-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

Haha cheers man, no need for hostility right?; these cars-the Camaro's, vette's, mustangs, vipers, etc from the last year or so, are so capable and awesome that it's simply an amazing time to be an American car guy.

When $30k American pony cars can hang with m3's and $50k ones can be seen fit enough to get pitted against gtr's that are $40k more, it's a great time to be an american car guy.

Hell, there's a certain corvette z06 that just shut down a 2012 gtr on willow... That was an awesome competition last month. Great time to buy American.

There's also a viper acr that ran damn near 6:59.99 minutes on the ring! The new srt viper will be a rocket, can't wait.

A camaro ran 7:40's at the ring and a stang goes 202 these days. Pretty fckn bad ass.

(lots of Euro and Japanese cars are great too but they don't pluck at my fun/affordable strings the same way, love me some pagani's but... $$$$ :^()

Sums it all

TheReaper · 06-30-2012, 07:54 PM

Maybe a repost but nice.

72MachOne99GT · 06-30-2012, 10:01 PM

christ jesus

9c1ny · 06-30-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReaper

Maybe a repost but nice.

lol like he was standing still

HPT BANDIT · 07-01-2012, 12:14 AM

Any chance the tune on the ZL1 was a little too aggressive?

Bad@ssCamaro · 07-01-2012, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReaper

Maybe a repost but nice.

That's embarrassing :(

tt335ci03cobra · 07-01-2012, 06:40 AM

That was obviously an acknowledged pass me maneuver. Most people who ate getting acquainted with a track and aren't as fast as the people around them pull to the side for faster drivers to pass them.

I've seen vipers get passed by guys in bolt on s2000's. It says more that the driver recognized they're experience on the track isn't enough to attempt to hold position. Classy drivers let others go by if they feel the others have a faster line/car/more experience.

Nothing embarrassing to me. Cheers.

Rock36 · 07-01-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 9c1ny

lol like he was standing still

You mean the Ferrari the blew by both of them?

tt335ci03cobra · 07-01-2012, 06:57 AM

That Ferrari was insane

imstillhere · 07-01-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

That Ferrari was insane

true! but the zl1 is comfy!!!

72MachOne99GT · 07-01-2012, 12:27 PM

The way that ferrari took off on the straights and the sound was intoxicating.

Looked like old computer racing games, and when you finally get the final car it just takes off and handles on a rail!

The IOM Ninja · 07-01-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by imstillhere

true! but the zl1 is comfy!!!

I'm glad to see that comfort is now a performance metric.....

72MachOne99GT · 07-01-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

I'm glad to see that comfort is now a performance metric.....

It's right next to gas mileage and ergonomics

The IOM Ninja · 07-01-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

It's right next to gas mileage and ergonomics

ROFL

SRT8Tech · 07-02-2012, 07:17 AM

The Challenger 392 should beat both the GT500 and ZL1 because its more comfy than both put together.

A-little-perspective · 07-02-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

The Challenger 392 should beat both the GT500 and ZL1 because its more comfy than both put together.

Yeah, I agree. The SRT8 is very comfortable, and there is more room in the back for passengers too.

As far as comfort between the ZL1 and the GT500 though, I always thought the Recaros were pretty damn comfortable.

Sax1031 · 07-02-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

The Challenger 392 should beat both the GT500 and ZL1 because its more comfy than both put together.

Probably easier to drive also.

tt335ci03cobra · 07-02-2012, 01:07 PM

Ya it's nice to have a cushy car but honestly I like muscle to be raw and visceral. I'm an outcast I guess but I like delrin, tubular steel and aluminum, solid aluminum, hardened steel, billet steel, etc to make up my chassis and suspension. Electronic this and that are great in my fx35 but for my fun car, I like that race car non isolated, fully connected feel. Ya it's tougher to drive and rough but hey, I drive an fx daily for comfort, I like the idea of a viper or 65 Shelby cobra roadster more so than a cts-v or amg style car.

HPT BANDIT · 07-02-2012, 04:20 PM

The comparisons remind me of the old Vettes vs. Vipers. Both great cars but in totally different ways.

tt335ci03cobra · 07-02-2012, 05:04 PM

That's a very good example. A 2002 gts was a faster car in a line and on some tracks back than a z06 of the time but it was more crude and had brake issues. It's issues we're non abs related consistency, today's gt500 comes its pedestrian grade brake fluid that's easily addressed for track goers.

Zl1 vs gt500 is suprisingly similar. One car is refined and exemplary for daily driving while being plenty fast and faster on some road courses, the gt500 is faster in a line and faster on some courses but it's brakes can fade on the factory setup fluid and pads.

One also has medium gearing, the other has gearing to get to the moon. Ones cheaper, ones pricier, etc.

All 4 are great cars, god bless America damnit.

eolson · 07-06-2012, 10:20 PM

Has anyone seen a Road & Track comparison between the ZL1 and the 2013 GT500??

Thanks, Erik

View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1	5	35.71%
GT500	9	64.29%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

06-30-2012, 10:01 PM	#3182
72MachOne99GT Drives: 1972 Mach 1, 1999 GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 483	christ jesus __________________ Arrived: Base/Grabber/Recaro 2013 GT500 Also Arrived: That 'perma-grin' thing you ZL1 owners were talking about

07-01-2012, 06:40 AM	#3186
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra (5.4 swap, tt57's) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 142	That was obviously an acknowledged pass me maneuver. Most people who ate getting acquainted with a track and aren't as fast as the people around them pull to the side for faster drivers to pass them. I've seen vipers get passed by guys in bolt on s2000's. It says more that the driver recognized they're experience on the track isn't enough to attempt to hold position. Classy drivers let others go by if they feel the others have a faster line/car/more experience. Nothing embarrassing to me. Cheers. __________________ -fear's no ss/zl1's =^) -fear's almost all z06/zr1's though =^( 03 cobra -full suspension (maximum motorsports) -built 5.4/fuel/cooling -tt with wotbox/2step, Ecutouts, truboost etc -nt05/5r's 275/35/18 & 315/40/18's -818 @ 16#'s running 91octane (4600ft) -1,xxx @ 24#'s this summer with bb 62's... -3520# wet weight -3.55's (60 in 1st) -too many other mods to list.

07-01-2012, 06:57 AM	#3188
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra (5.4 swap, tt57's) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 142	That Ferrari was insane __________________ -fear's no ss/zl1's =^) -fear's almost all z06/zr1's though =^( 03 cobra -full suspension (maximum motorsports) -built 5.4/fuel/cooling -tt with wotbox/2step, Ecutouts, truboost etc -nt05/5r's 275/35/18 & 315/40/18's -818 @ 16#'s running 91octane (4600ft) -1,xxx @ 24#'s this summer with bb 62's... -3520# wet weight -3.55's (60 in 1st) -too many other mods to list.

07-01-2012, 12:27 PM	#3190
72MachOne99GT Drives: 1972 Mach 1, 1999 GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 483	The way that ferrari took off on the straights and the sound was intoxicating. Looked like old computer racing games, and when you finally get the final car it just takes off and handles on a rail! __________________ Arrived: Base/Grabber/Recaro 2013 GT500 Also Arrived: That 'perma-grin' thing you ZL1 owners were talking about

06-29-2012, 04:45 PM	#3178
C5RocksC5 Banned Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 697	so the GT500 pretty much takes the performance testings while the ZL1 takes the ride comfort. I am mad now.

07-01-2012, 12:14 AM	#3184
HPT BANDIT Drives: 1999 Ford Lightning Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 76	Any chance the tune on the ZL1 was a little too aggressive?

07-02-2012, 07:17 AM	#3194
SRT8Tech 2012 GT500 Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Jacksonville FL. Posts: 576	The Challenger 392 should beat both the GT500 and ZL1 because its more comfy than both put together. __________________ 2012 GT500 with some mods...........

07-02-2012, 01:07 PM	#3197
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra (5.4 swap, tt57's) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 142	Ya it's nice to have a cushy car but honestly I like muscle to be raw and visceral. I'm an outcast I guess but I like delrin, tubular steel and aluminum, solid aluminum, hardened steel, billet steel, etc to make up my chassis and suspension. Electronic this and that are great in my fx35 but for my fun car, I like that race car non isolated, fully connected feel. Ya it's tougher to drive and rough but hey, I drive an fx daily for comfort, I like the idea of a viper or 65 Shelby cobra roadster more so than a cts-v or amg style car. __________________ -fear's no ss/zl1's =^) -fear's almost all z06/zr1's though =^( 03 cobra -full suspension (maximum motorsports) -built 5.4/fuel/cooling -tt with wotbox/2step, Ecutouts, truboost etc -nt05/5r's 275/35/18 & 315/40/18's -818 @ 16#'s running 91octane (4600ft) -1,xxx @ 24#'s this summer with bb 62's... -3520# wet weight -3.55's (60 in 1st) -too many other mods to list.

07-02-2012, 04:20 PM	#3198
HPT BANDIT Drives: 1999 Ford Lightning Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 76	The comparisons remind me of the old Vettes vs. Vipers. Both great cars but in totally different ways.

07-02-2012, 05:04 PM	#3199
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra (5.4 swap, tt57's) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 142	That's a very good example. A 2002 gts was a faster car in a line and on some tracks back than a z06 of the time but it was more crude and had brake issues. It's issues we're non abs related consistency, today's gt500 comes its pedestrian grade brake fluid that's easily addressed for track goers. Zl1 vs gt500 is suprisingly similar. One car is refined and exemplary for daily driving while being plenty fast and faster on some road courses, the gt500 is faster in a line and faster on some courses but it's brakes can fade on the factory setup fluid and pads. One also has medium gearing, the other has gearing to get to the moon. Ones cheaper, ones pricier, etc. All 4 are great cars, god bless America damnit. __________________ -fear's no ss/zl1's =^) -fear's almost all z06/zr1's though =^( 03 cobra -full suspension (maximum motorsports) -built 5.4/fuel/cooling -tt with wotbox/2step, Ecutouts, truboost etc -nt05/5r's 275/35/18 & 315/40/18's -818 @ 16#'s running 91octane (4600ft) -1,xxx @ 24#'s this summer with bb 62's... -3520# wet weight -3.55's (60 in 1st) -too many other mods to list.

07-06-2012, 10:20 PM	#3200
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	Has anyone seen a Road & Track comparison between the ZL1 and the 2013 GT500?? Thanks, Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.