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mySSt · 07-07-2012, 09:29 PM

NO!

Been changing my own oil on all our cars for years and never before had this happen. Didn't pay enough attention to the old filter when I put it in the drain pan, but the 'rubber' gasket stayed on the car and not the filter. When I screwed on the new filter, it went on nice and smooth and tightened up as normal. Before sliding out from under the car, I admired how clean everything still looks under my car. Thought I was finished underneath, added new Mobil 1, checked the dip stick level, and got in and cranked her up. After just a few seconds, noticed oil pressure was a bit low on the 4 pack and heard a squishing sound. Immediately shut her down, looked underneath, and saw oil splatter everywhere!

2 hours later - after cleaning up the underside and the garage floor, changed the filter again (this time paying attention to the #%$@ gasket!), went ahead and drained out remaining oil to make sure I knew how much new oil to put in the second time. I know, expensive lesson for me with 16 quarts of Mobil 1 and 2 new Wix filters for a single oil change, but didn't want to chance running the LS3 on too little oil.

Learn from my mistake!

dragon22 · 07-11-2012, 12:37 AM

Been there, done that on a Chev 350 I used to have in one of my cars. Not only does it make a mess, but it's down right embarrassing! LOL

johnntab · 07-11-2012, 01:56 AM

I did the same on duramax. 10 quarts of oil on the driveway. 70 lbs of cat litter to dry it up. I have done my own maintenance forever. I could have saved a lot of money if the dealer had done that oil change.

buzzy56 · 07-31-2012, 06:06 PM

Thought I would shout out a friendly reminder.Went out today and drained my oil (L99) got it drained out & dripped it for an hour & went back and wiped off the pan and the filter pad and quess what ? Found the rubber gasket from the old filter that I removed still stuck up on the pad ! Thought what the h--L. Last change it did not do this.Using Mobil 1 filter's both times.Need to check every time you change it I guess.Must be cutting back on the gasket glue to save a few bucks.Could have been a disaster for sure.Can't depend on anything or anybody anymore.Check recheck, verify. ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !

dragon22 · 07-31-2012, 06:13 PM

This has always been a must do thing ever since I started in the trade. If you look at your filters, there are crimps which hold the square o-ring gasket in place. They don't use glue. Found this out in 1978 as a young apprentice. Thankfully it puked the oil out in the shop and not while the customer was driving. What a mess!

buzzy56 · 07-31-2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon22

This has always been a must do thing ever since I started in the trade. If you look at your filters, there are crimps which hold the square o-ring gasket in place. They don't use glue. Found this out in 1978 as a young apprentice. Thankfully it puked the oil out in the shop and not while the customer was driving. What a mess!

I guess I have been LUCKY .Been changing my own oil since I was 17 yrs. old and now 66 yrs. old and never had a rubber filter gasket come off an stick to the filter base.(until today) .Will definitely check every time from now on.

stahlecker · 08-08-2012, 03:27 PM

I did that on my pickup once. Fired it up and wondered why the pressure gauge was bouncing, then heard a noise I didn't like. Only lost about a quart and a half but man does that little amount make a good mess.

TheHorse13 · 08-09-2012, 07:53 AM

Don't feel bad as this is nothing new. I had AC Delco filters do this to me as far back as the mid 80s. It happened once on the pontiac 400 motor I had in a T/A and then another time on the 305 V8 on a Camaro.

You need to inspect the mating surface every oil change. A simple ten second look will save you this headache forever.

mclark10 · 08-09-2012, 03:14 PM

The only time that happened to me was with my '67 Camaro. Only lost about a quart though, at 69 cents, LOL

Nvincent4708 · 08-10-2012, 03:10 PM

i've been told about this since i started working on cars. been a habit to check because of horror stories i've been told

PAUL SS · 08-10-2012, 04:07 PM

That's why I always wipe the filter mounting surface and visually inspect it. two gaskets is a weak spot.

07-07-2012, 09:29 PM	#1
mySSt Drives: '11 CGM SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: East TX Posts: 205	Are 2 oil filter gaskets better than just one? NO! Been changing my own oil on all our cars for years and never before had this happen. Didn't pay enough attention to the old filter when I put it in the drain pan, but the 'rubber' gasket stayed on the car and not the filter. When I screwed on the new filter, it went on nice and smooth and tightened up as normal. Before sliding out from under the car, I admired how clean everything still looks under my car. Thought I was finished underneath, added new Mobil 1, checked the dip stick level, and got in and cranked her up. After just a few seconds, noticed oil pressure was a bit low on the 4 pack and heard a squishing sound. Immediately shut her down, looked underneath, and saw oil splatter everywhere! 2 hours later - after cleaning up the underside and the garage floor, changed the filter again (this time paying attention to the #%$@ gasket!), went ahead and drained out remaining oil to make sure I knew how much new oil to put in the second time. I know, expensive lesson for me with 16 quarts of Mobil 1 and 2 new Wix filters for a single oil change, but didn't want to chance running the LS3 on too little oil. Learn from my mistake! __________________ Anyone can drive fast in a straight line, its what you can do thru the curves that matters!

07-11-2012, 12:37 AM	#2
dragon22 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,542 View My Garage	Been there, done that on a Chev 350 I used to have in one of my cars. Not only does it make a mess, but it's down right embarrassing! LOL __________________ 2010 2SS/RS - 6M Silver Ice Metallic ARH LT Headers with MBRP 3" catback exhaust, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ZL1 inspired splitter, ZL1 Grille, Rear Fascia blackout, Gill decals, Aftermarket Hurst Short Throw shifter, Tune by Jannetty Racing.

07-11-2012, 01:56 AM	#3
johnntab Drives: 2010 2SSRS, 11 CTS-V, 12 Denali HD Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: KY Posts: 46 View My Garage	I did the same on duramax. 10 quarts of oil on the driveway. 70 lbs of cat litter to dry it up. I have done my own maintenance forever. I could have saved a lot of money if the dealer had done that oil change. __________________ ORDER # NDPPHT: 2010 2SS/RS Beltronics custom install radar detector STiR plus, Ofer's backup camera, Procharger D1SC, LG pro lt headers and midpipe, Borla S Type rear section, Comp Cam pushrods and springs, 65lb injectors, Alky meth kit, Aeroforce interceptor gauge mounted on SLP steering column gauge pod, tune by BLUECAT, and from bestwheeldeals.com: TSW Nurburgrings, Nitto 05r rear, Invo front.

07-31-2012, 06:06 PM	#4
buzzy56 buzzy56 Drives: 2ss summit white L99 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: paradise Posts: 1,128 View My Garage	WARNING Thought I would shout out a friendly reminder.Went out today and drained my oil (L99) got it drained out & dripped it for an hour & went back and wiped off the pan and the filter pad and quess what ? Found the rubber gasket from the old filter that I removed still stuck up on the pad ! Thought what the h--L. Last change it did not do this.Using Mobil 1 filter's both times.Need to check every time you change it I guess.Must be cutting back on the gasket glue to save a few bucks.Could have been a disaster for sure.Can't depend on anything or anybody anymore.Check recheck, verify. ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ! __________________ OLD SCHOOL / NEW SCHOOL COOL

08-08-2012, 03:27 PM	#7
stahlecker Drives: 2010 Aqua Blue 2SS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NE Posts: 14	I did that on my pickup once. Fired it up and wondered why the pressure gauge was bouncing, then heard a noise I didn't like. Only lost about a quart and a half but man does that little amount make a good mess. Last edited by stahlecker; 08-08-2012 at 03:27 PM. Reason: spelling

07-31-2012, 06:13 PM	#5
dragon22 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,542 View My Garage	This has always been a must do thing ever since I started in the trade. If you look at your filters, there are crimps which hold the square o-ring gasket in place. They don't use glue. Found this out in 1978 as a young apprentice. Thankfully it puked the oil out in the shop and not while the customer was driving. What a mess!

08-09-2012, 07:53 AM	#8
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 765	Don't feel bad as this is nothing new. I had AC Delco filters do this to me as far back as the mid 80s. It happened once on the pontiac 400 motor I had in a T/A and then another time on the 305 V8 on a Camaro. You need to inspect the mating surface every oil change. A simple ten second look will save you this headache forever.

08-09-2012, 03:14 PM	#9
mclark10 Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 Vert M6, 2011 Equinox Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cortland, NY Posts: 3,450 View My Garage	The only time that happened to me was with my '67 Camaro. Only lost about a quart though, at 69 cents, LOL __________________ Cosmetic Mods- A few Performance Mods- Even fewer (Click above image to learn about UpstateC5)

08-10-2012, 03:10 PM	#10
Nvincent4708 Former 2011 LSX/SS Owner Drives: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earleville, MD Posts: 24,723 View My Garage	i've been told about this since i started working on cars. been a habit to check because of horror stories i've been told

08-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#11
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 7,664 View My Garage	That's why I always wipe the filter mounting surface and visually inspect it. two gaskets is a weak spot. __________________ ################################################## ################################# The Few, The Proud, The Aqua Blue Metallics 709 of 3903 New England Camaro5 . My Camaro Journal Heritage Grill, Cold Air Inductions Intake, Elite Engineering Catch Can, BMR 1" Lowering Springs, Sway Bars and End Links, Clear Image Jet Hot Ceramic Coated headers and High Flow Cats, Hurst Billet 2 Shifter, LSR Billet Strut Washers, DynoMax Axle Back Exhaust, JANNETTY MAGIC!