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1969to2010 · 07-12-2012, 10:33 PM

Ok I had another thread about this a ways back but I have tried most suggestions and I'm still at square one
My car 1 SS turbonetics t76 bmr full poly subframe bushings trailing arms tod rods pfadt lowering springs fast rear sway bar a6 car forge star cf5 Pzeros 275s on front Nitto nto5s 315s on the rear

At wot my car veers left and right
At 5-6 lbs of boost it doesn't do it as bad
At 7 lbs it does it
At 9 lbs even worse

She spins a little too,

It did this with stock rims and also with my new set up

It started this after I added a zl1 fuel pump and the cradle was dropped at this time the boost was turned up a bit

Had the car aligned by Ted jannetty so the alignment is perfect

Added a pfadt sway bar and it didn't help

The car put down 499/550 After Ted tuned her

Will subframe connectors help ?

Posi mod ?

Adjustable toe links ?

Have it corner balanced ? Was thinking about a trip to farks super cars

Any help or ideas will be appreciated thnx !

1969to2010 · 07-13-2012, 02:55 PM

Going to try tightening the toe links

Apex Chase · 07-13-2012, 03:32 PM

I would ditch the poly sub frame bushings and go solid with that kind of power.

1969to2010 · 07-14-2012, 10:27 AM

No ideas as to why it's doing this ?

The only time it didn't do this was with the messed up alignment which was a tire killer
I'm lost

Tightened the one side toe links same deal

JLE58 · 07-17-2012, 02:41 PM

What do you mean by you car veers left and right at wot? is this at a launch or at high speeds? does it ever clear up? explain some more please. Did you check all the bushings?

JusticePete · 07-17-2012, 02:42 PM

Please post your current and past alignment specs.

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 03:05 PM

You constantly have to correct left and right at wide open throttle its not a good feeling

My car was just aligned by Ted
I'll try and get the specs

Bushings all look fine

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 03:17 PM

Could it be the stock toe link bushings ?

Drew10 · 07-17-2012, 03:30 PM

Man I feel for ya. I am having the same issues as you, and just had my car aligned. I don't trust the place I used for my alignment so that is my next step after I get my new tires this week. Keep us posted.

JLE58 · 07-17-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1969to2010

You constantly have to correct left and right at wide open throttle its not a good feeling

My car was just aligned by Ted
I'll try and get the specs

Bushings all look fine

This happends as soon as you got WOT? not at high speed though Correct??

JusticePete · 07-17-2012, 03:32 PM

Without alignment specs we are just throwing parts at a problem. The specs are mission critical.

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 03:50 PM

Sent you what I have pete

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JLE58

This happends as soon as you got WOT? not at high speed though Correct??

High speeds fine it's under acceleration where the issue presents

JusticePete · 07-17-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1969to2010

Sent you what I have pete

Front looks really good. The rear befores were a mess. Can you call and see if they can email you an AFTER of the rear?

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 04:02 PM

They left For the day

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew10

Man I feel for ya. I am having the same issues as you, and just had my car aligned. I don't trust the place I used for my alignment so that is my next step after I get my new tires this week. Keep us posted.

Do you have subframe bushings

jeffny09 · 07-17-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1969to2010

Do you have subframe bushings

Mike..i still have this problem..and have yet to solve it... I thimk it has something to do with.dropping the subframe....

1969to2010 · 07-17-2012, 05:03 PM

Could very well be

jeffny09 · 07-17-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1969to2010

Could very well be

Maybe it didntgo up right.

JLE58 · 07-18-2012, 07:41 AM

I wouldn't throw any more parts at it. If your alignment is good( im sure it is) then there isn't much anyone can do on here besides guess. It's gonna take someone getting the car on a lift and checking everything. Subframe, bushings, make sure no tabs are broke and all bolts are tight and nothing is bent,check tires, make sure springs are in right. If I could not find anything wrong after double checking then I would start with shocks,springs. Most anything else would be able to been seen if something was wrong. Sucks for sure and I hope you get it all worked out. If you were down here in the south we could get it on a lift etc.. And figure it out.

1969to2010 · 07-18-2012, 08:03 AM

Well the tires I know it isn't it did this with stock tires and my current tires as well

It didn't do this before the cradle was dropped and the boost turned up from 5 to 7 lbs so I'm thinking it's the extra power or something is loose in the cradle . But seeing how the car is going up on a lift anyway I'm going invest in new toe links because the stock toe links are weak as well as the rubber bushings plus I need to replace my drop springs due to the droop rate issue so the car will be apart anyway and toe links aren't that much $$$

Just hope it's done by time for bbomg in a few weeks

jeffny09 · 07-18-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JLE58

I wouldn't throw any more parts at it. If your alignment is good( im sure it is) then there isn't much anyone can do on here besides guess. It's gonna take someone getting the car on a lift and checking everything. Subframe, bushings, make sure no tabs are broke and all bolts are tight and nothing is bent,check tires, make sure springs are in right. If I could not find anything wrong after double checking then I would start with shocks,springs. Most anything else would be able to been seen if something was wrong. Sucks for sure and I hope you get it all worked out. If you were down here in the south we could get it on a lift etc.. And figure it out.

How would i know if one of the tabs are bent? Mine has done this since i dropped the cradle to...everything looks tight and well...one screw looks like it shift a little tho..but the bushing is still intact ..there solid ones...

JLE58 · 07-18-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1969to2010

Well the tires I know it isn't it did this with stock tires and my current tires as well

It didn't do this before the cradle was dropped and the boost turned up from 5 to 7 lbs so I'm thinking it's the extra power or something is loose in the cradle . But seeing how the car is going up on a lift anyway I'm going invest in new toe links because the stock toe links are weak as well as the rubber bushings plus I need to replace my drop springs due to the droop rate issue so the car will be apart anyway and toe links aren't that much $$$

Just hope it's done by time for bbomg in a few weeks

adjustable Toe rods are a nice up grade and for sure something you need anyways. This was a Common problem in 4th gens including one of the ones i had and the fix alot of time was sway bar or shocks. In your case I would also think its something to do with the cradle and my guess is that you will find something if you look real good.

JLE58 · 07-18-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffny09

How would i know if one of the tabs are bent? Mine has done this since i dropped the cradle to...everything looks tight and well...one screw looks like it shift a little tho..but the bushing is still intact ..there solid ones...

I would look anywhere it bolts together and make sure nothing it cracked, broke off or structure bent. The more power you got with the stock chassis and suspension the more movement your gonna get. Alot of the aftermarkets parts are made because the stock stuff it prone to break and move alot more. The stronger parts make the car stronger and more stable and consistent. As far as the bushing it anything about it doesnt look right i would check it real good.

jeffny09 · 07-18-2012, 08:59 AM

So that means i have to drop the rear cradle again i assume?
Oo and my bushings r not stock!

07-12-2012, 10:33 PM	#1
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Help Me ! Ok I had another thread about this a ways back but I have tried most suggestions and I'm still at square one My car 1 SS turbonetics t76 bmr full poly subframe bushings trailing arms tod rods pfadt lowering springs fast rear sway bar a6 car forge star cf5 Pzeros 275s on front Nitto nto5s 315s on the rear At wot my car veers left and right At 5-6 lbs of boost it doesn't do it as bad At 7 lbs it does it At 9 lbs even worse She spins a little too, It did this with stock rims and also with my new set up It started this after I added a zl1 fuel pump and the cradle was dropped at this time the boost was turned up a bit Had the car aligned by Ted jannetty so the alignment is perfect Added a pfadt sway bar and it didn't help The car put down 499/550 After Ted tuned her Will subframe connectors help ? Posi mod ? Adjustable toe links ? Have it corner balanced ? Was thinking about a trip to farks super cars Any help or ideas will be appreciated thnx ! __________________

07-13-2012, 02:55 PM	#2
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Going to try tightening the toe links __________________

07-13-2012, 03:32 PM	#3
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07-14-2012, 10:27 AM	#4
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	No ideas as to why it's doing this ? The only time it didn't do this was with the messed up alignment which was a tire killer I'm lost Tightened the one side toe links same deal __________________

07-17-2012, 02:42 PM	#6
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07-17-2012, 02:41 PM	#5
JLE58 Drives: CGM,twin turbo, cam 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ROCKMART, GA Posts: 2,077	What do you mean by you car veers left and right at wot? is this at a launch or at high speeds? does it ever clear up? explain some more please. Did you check all the bushings?

07-17-2012, 03:05 PM	#7
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	You constantly have to correct left and right at wide open throttle its not a good feeling My car was just aligned by Ted I'll try and get the specs Bushings all look fine __________________

07-17-2012, 03:17 PM	#8
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Could it be the stock toe link bushings ? __________________

07-17-2012, 03:30 PM	#9
Drew10 Enjoys a good train wreck Drives: 2010 IBM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,735	Man I feel for ya. I am having the same issues as you, and just had my car aligned. I don't trust the place I used for my alignment so that is my next step after I get my new tires this week. Keep us posted.

07-17-2012, 03:32 PM	#11
JusticePete Needs Lowering Drives: Pedders USA Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 13,916	Without alignment specs we are just throwing parts at a problem. The specs are mission critical. __________________ Camaro Information \| Buy Pedders Parts \| Pedders Dealers \| The 5th Gen Book \| GMPP \| SEMA Hot Wheels Camaro Brochure \| EOD Fund Facebook Pedders Head Office 248.522.8021

07-17-2012, 03:50 PM	#12
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Sent you what I have pete __________________

07-17-2012, 04:02 PM	#15
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	They left For the day __________________

07-17-2012, 05:03 PM	#18
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Could very well be __________________

07-18-2012, 07:41 AM	#20
JLE58 Drives: CGM,twin turbo, cam 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ROCKMART, GA Posts: 2,077	I wouldn't throw any more parts at it. If your alignment is good( im sure it is) then there isn't much anyone can do on here besides guess. It's gonna take someone getting the car on a lift and checking everything. Subframe, bushings, make sure no tabs are broke and all bolts are tight and nothing is bent,check tires, make sure springs are in right. If I could not find anything wrong after double checking then I would start with shocks,springs. Most anything else would be able to been seen if something was wrong. Sucks for sure and I hope you get it all worked out. If you were down here in the south we could get it on a lift etc.. And figure it out.

07-18-2012, 08:03 AM	#21
1969to2010 The Man in Black Drives: 1969 Camaro 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,862	Well the tires I know it isn't it did this with stock tires and my current tires as well It didn't do this before the cradle was dropped and the boost turned up from 5 to 7 lbs so I'm thinking it's the extra power or something is loose in the cradle . But seeing how the car is going up on a lift anyway I'm going invest in new toe links because the stock toe links are weak as well as the rubber bushings plus I need to replace my drop springs due to the droop rate issue so the car will be apart anyway and toe links aren't that much $$$ Just hope it's done by time for bbomg in a few weeks __________________

07-18-2012, 08:59 AM	#25
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