RX catch can 1,000 miles no oil? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

skar · 07-21-2012, 09:37 AM

Installed a RX catch can this spring after 1,000 miles I drained it*
And got nothing not one drop ? Not sure if this is good or bad!
Yes it's installed correct . I called the manufacture to Make sure.

Pollock · 07-21-2012, 09:40 AM

I removed mine. All it did was leak oil everywhere. I had a different brand. Maybe you do not drive it hard enough.

Aries240SS · 07-21-2012, 09:42 AM

After only 1k miles, you shouldn't have any major oil build up. I would expect less than a teaspoon. After 5k miles mine dropped out about 3 tablespoons, but I spend a lot of time in the upper RPMs.

Pollock · 07-21-2012, 09:50 AM

I am on the fence about these things. I am not sure they r really worth it. I have read all the pros about them.

Swytch · 07-21-2012, 09:55 AM

I put about 6k miles a summer on my car, drain the RX can at the end of every season and get like a 1/4 of a small water bottle out of it.. Maybe 4-6 oz... It's not a ton, but that's 4 oz of oil not coating my intake.. For the price and installation effort I think it's a good deal..

IndeedSS1 · 07-21-2012, 09:56 AM

I installed a catch can at 3400 miles and was catching so much oil that the dealership replaced my valley cover. After the valley cover was replaced the amount went way down but there was still enough to be worth having. I'm at 40,000 miles now and after my last 7000 miles I only caught about a half ounce.

monSSter · 07-21-2012, 11:38 AM

I took mine off and sold it. Ran it for a couple thousand miles and didn't see any results. The valve drainage valve somehow went bad and set off a check engine light. Company
replaced the valve, but by then I was over it. Replaced the valve and sold it.

rberns · 07-21-2012, 12:49 PM

Within the first 200 miles I installed it I drained it and had about 2oz. I checked it again about 500 miles later and nothing in the Rx CC. I now have 2200 miles.

MA2010SS · 07-21-2012, 05:08 PM

I've had mine on for about 800 miles now and my car has been on the dyno with numerous runs along with the 800 street miles and I got about 4 drops worth, I am happy with that so far, I check down into the throttle body with my stethescope and nothing there so I guess that I am good

Mr_Draco · 07-21-2012, 05:44 PM

Unless you have a bad valley cover, you shouldn't see anything in just 1k miles.

nighttowl · 07-21-2012, 05:48 PM

my car doesnt use oil, hence no catch can.

Birm · 07-21-2012, 05:54 PM

I drained at my cam swap (2500 miles) got 4oz, I drained at oil change on Tuesday this week (8500 miles) and got another 3oz or so. That's in 6months...so cost wise, I'll take the peace of mind.

Jose · 07-21-2012, 06:18 PM

It is normal for the GM LS engines to pass oil to the throttle body, that is why a catch can is important, it has been proven numerous times. The difference is the catch can brand, there are a bunch out there, you just have to make sure that you purchase a good proven one. Mine collects around 2 tablespoons between changes, and I race my car on the track.

hightower · 07-21-2012, 06:22 PM

Need to order one already! I think they're worthwhile.

OP, don't be worried, that's a good sign.

SC2150 · 07-21-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nighttowl

my car doesnt use oil, hence no catch can.

Pull your TB off and look inside the IM with a light.....you will see if you have ingestion or not...

SSGUNNER · 07-21-2012, 11:46 PM

Mines been on now for 3k+. I will check it soon before the next oil change.

2012InfernoSS · 07-22-2012, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skar

Installed a RX catch can this spring after 1,000 miles I drained it*
And got nothing not one drop ? Not sure if this is good or bad!
Yes it's installed correct . I called the manufacture to Make sure.

Make sure the valve is closed... start the car and put ur finger over the tube.. you will feel it sucking if its open

skar · 07-22-2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012InfernoSS

Make sure the valve is closed... start the car and put ur finger over the tube.. you will feel it sucking if its open

The more brass threads showing = closed right.

nighttowl · 07-22-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2150

Pull your TB off and look inside the IM with a light.....you will see if you have ingestion or not...

i just had the engine out 2 months ago. im good (for now).

SC2150 · 07-22-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nighttowl

i just had the engine out 2 months ago. im good (for now).

???? If you check it you will see...does not matter if it has 200 miles on it, the issue is with every single LLT & LFX & LY7. Guaranteed.

It's your car and you can choose to not address it, but I guarantee you if you pull the TB off and look inside the IM (or better yet, pull the plenum cover off) you will see it full of oil. Have worked on hundreds of these over the years and not a single one did not have the issue, and in 2-3k miles your valves will look like this:

nighttowl · 07-22-2012, 02:37 PM

mine had 29k miles on it. i pulled the engine to put it on an engine stand for cam install and degree. heads were removed ans swapped out. they were clean. seriously.

SC2150 · 07-22-2012, 02:51 PM

I see, you have the SS. Yes, top tier fule travels past the intake valves and does prevent deposits from forming and I would have to agree on that.....I was mistaken thinking you had a 3.6DI and there is no fuel touching the valves. But, the ingestion still is there and causing detonation and some mild power loss.

Pull your TB and look in the IM...I guarantee it has oil in it even though you are not seeing usage, and any oil in the combustion mixture will have a negative effect on the burn pattern and the amount of energy released per explosive event.

But you are correct on a port injection engine the fuel additives will help keep the deposits from forming unlike a DI engine.

The picture above is a DI motor.

And nice #'s for a cam....and I am impressed you (or whoever did the install) took the time to degree it....says alot about the knowledge in play.

07-21-2012, 09:37 AM	#1
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07-21-2012, 09:40 AM	#2
Pollock LS3 M6 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 553	I removed mine. All it did was leak oil everywhere. I had a different brand. Maybe you do not drive it hard enough. __________________ JRE 470 RWHP Cam, UD pulley, Kooks 1 7/8 Headers w/high flow cats, PCV catch can, Black CAI, ADM racing Scoop, Flowmaster AT Cat Back, VMax TB, BMR Trailing Arms

07-21-2012, 09:42 AM	#3
Aries240SS Drives: 2011 1SS RS Camaro, 1995 LSX 240SX Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 291	After only 1k miles, you shouldn't have any major oil build up. I would expect less than a teaspoon. After 5k miles mine dropped out about 3 tablespoons, but I spend a lot of time in the upper RPMs. __________________ 2011 Camaro 1SS/RS Hotchkis Chassis Brace, Rotofab Intake, Hurst Short Shifter, BMR Springs / Trailing Arms / Sways, Nitrous Outlet 150 Shot, SubThump Stealth Box, TSP 1 7/8 Headers, VMax TB, JRE Scoop, Rotofab Washer Relocation, JRE Tune

07-21-2012, 09:50 AM	#4
Pollock LS3 M6 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 553	I am on the fence about these things. I am not sure they r really worth it. I have read all the pros about them. __________________ JRE 470 RWHP Cam, UD pulley, Kooks 1 7/8 Headers w/high flow cats, PCV catch can, Black CAI, ADM racing Scoop, Flowmaster AT Cat Back, VMax TB, BMR Trailing Arms

07-21-2012, 09:55 AM	#5
Swytch Drives: 10 2SS/RS Black, 99 Daktota Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 256	I put about 6k miles a summer on my car, drain the RX can at the end of every season and get like a 1/4 of a small water bottle out of it.. Maybe 4-6 oz... It's not a ton, but that's 4 oz of oil not coating my intake.. For the price and installation effort I think it's a good deal.. __________________ Kooks Signature Series Headers 1-3/4 stepped to 1 7/8, Kooks 3" High Flow Cats, Vararam OTR Cold Air Intake, JRE Performance Tune, RX Catch Can, RX Oil Breather, LSR Tri-Ax short throw shifter, AAC Red/White Halos and Fog Rings, AAC Knight Rider Scanner Bar

07-21-2012, 09:56 AM	#6
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,849	I installed a catch can at 3400 miles and was catching so much oil that the dealership replaced my valley cover. After the valley cover was replaced the amount went way down but there was still enough to be worth having. I'm at 40,000 miles now and after my last 7000 miles I only caught about a half ounce. __________________ She is only memory now.

07-21-2012, 11:38 AM	#7
monSSter Drives: VICTORY RED/CYBER GREY Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: BOYNTON BEACH,FL Posts: 131 View My Garage	I took mine off and sold it. Ran it for a couple thousand miles and didn't see any results. The valve drainage valve somehow went bad and set off a check engine light. Company replaced the valve, but by then I was over it. Replaced the valve and sold it.

07-21-2012, 12:49 PM	#8
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CR, IA Posts: 2,030 View My Garage	Within the first 200 miles I installed it I drained it and had about 2oz. I checked it again about 500 miles later and nothing in the Rx CC. I now have 2200 miles. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, GFX, Subs, RX CC, ARH 1 7/8, Cold Air Inductions w/Apex scoop.

07-21-2012, 05:08 PM	#9
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 494 View My Garage	I've had mine on for about 800 miles now and my car has been on the dyno with numerous runs along with the 800 street miles and I got about 4 drops worth, I am happy with that so far, I check down into the throttle body with my stethescope and nothing there so I guess that I am good __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, JRE 4.11 Gears, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, DSS 1000HP alxes, DSS aluminum DS, ZL1 fuel pump, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA 577RWHP

07-21-2012, 05:44 PM	#10
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,177	Unless you have a bad valley cover, you shouldn't see anything in just 1k miles.

07-21-2012, 05:48 PM	#11
nighttowl Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS / RS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 364 View My Garage	my car doesnt use oil, hence no catch can. __________________ Lots of goodies, 464 rwhp, 404 rwt.

07-21-2012, 05:54 PM	#12
Birm Drives: FSP Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 2,662	I drained at my cam swap (2500 miles) got 4oz, I drained at oil change on Tuesday this week (8500 miles) and got another 3oz or so. That's in 6months...so cost wise, I'll take the peace of mind. __________________ Cammed, Slammed and Blown to Perfection http://www.floridaspeedandpower.com/

07-21-2012, 06:18 PM	#13
Jose Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS White S/C Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 670 View My Garage	It is normal for the GM LS engines to pass oil to the throttle body, that is why a catch can is important, it has been proven numerous times. The difference is the catch can brand, there are a bunch out there, you just have to make sure that you purchase a good proven one. Mine collects around 2 tablespoons between changes, and I race my car on the track. __________________ "It does not matter if you win or loose, what matters is if I win" Carl Fogarty

07-21-2012, 06:22 PM	#14
hightower LS3 Black Widow Drives: 2012 45th 2SS LS3 and 1968 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Madison, GA Posts: 4,356	Need to order one already! I think they're worthwhile. OP, don't be worried, that's a good sign. __________________ My Camaro Story

07-21-2012, 11:46 PM	#16
SSGUNNER "An incredible machine" Drives: 2011 2SS/RSL99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Some where in socal Posts: 3,146	Mines been on now for 3k+. I will check it soon before the next oil change. __________________ AAC Plasma DRL's,Plug n play harness,RX CC,Tint: 35% & 5%, LED Dome light, Show-N-Go Plate Holder, Flowmaster AT, C.A.I. Intake

07-22-2012, 02:37 PM	#21
nighttowl Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS / RS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 364 View My Garage	mine had 29k miles on it. i pulled the engine to put it on an engine stand for cam install and degree. heads were removed ans swapped out. they were clean. seriously. __________________ Lots of goodies, 464 rwhp, 404 rwt.

07-22-2012, 02:51 PM	#22
SC2150 Drives: 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 8,061	I see, you have the SS. Yes, top tier fule travels past the intake valves and does prevent deposits from forming and I would have to agree on that.....I was mistaken thinking you had a 3.6DI and there is no fuel touching the valves. But, the ingestion still is there and causing detonation and some mild power loss. Pull your TB and look in the IM...I guarantee it has oil in it even though you are not seeing usage, and any oil in the combustion mixture will have a negative effect on the burn pattern and the amount of energy released per explosive event. But you are correct on a port injection engine the fuel additives will help keep the deposits from forming unlike a DI engine. The picture above is a DI motor. And nice #'s for a cam....and I am impressed you (or whoever did the install) took the time to degree it....says alot about the knowledge in play. __________________ www.RevXtreme.com 941-721-1826 Turbo & Supercharging specialist VMax porting development from the begining RX Super Chiller