Cam recommendations?

[Camper]

I think im about ready to finally pull the trigger on my LS3

Im really interested in JRE 480, LG G6x , and the lethal night fury.

i'd like to hear how you feel about yours and also a recommendation on a full parts list ? should I do the full kit or what is a must to change out with my cam selection?

I prefer the car to feel and sound like a mans car and enjoy having to "drive" my car!

[jesserayjames]

Me too....................................

[dekan513]

i got the lg g6x3 and love it , its a bit on the bigger side of things and car dont like crusin at 55 in 6th, but , it pulls hard and sounds awesome , if u think u will ever go f/i tho go with jre

[Nitroman28]

I've been looking in to cams, I think I got it down to the TSP LS-3 231/236 Or Night Fury, OR just calling lunati and having them grind me one.

[lynxone]

Originally Posted by dekan513

i got the lg g6x3 and love it , its a bit on the bigger side of things and car dont like crusin at 55 in 6th, but , it pulls hard and sounds awesome , if u think u will ever go f/i tho go with jre

Can some of that be tuned to cruise better? I'm looking at getting a cam too but I don't want to lose driveability for cruising.

[Maxspeed]

[Higgs Boson]

if you want to enjoy driving your car as stated I would not go too big.....

something in the high 220 range, especially depending on who tunes your car. i have seen a lot of cars have trouble idling, returning to idle, etc with a tune from some well known tuners, not sure why except that it is almost impossible to make money tuning idle properly since it takes quite a while to do it right. tuning part throttle and WOT is cake, the idle is where all the problems are and what separates the ones who truly know whats up.

If I were you I would get something no bigger than 224/232 on a 114 to 116. I would keep some negative overlap, maybe -10 or so. Once you get positive overlap like +10 you start dealing with exhaust fumes, very rough idle, etc and the one I recommended will still idle "manly." You will get 90% of a bigger cams peak power, more down low, and way better driveability.

Big cams with 70 more peak hp are cool on the dyno but not for the street, IMO. Lots of people will say, "well I drive mine on the street just fine." Sure, so did I. On sunny sundays, no traffic, no lights, no parking lots, etc. Daily driver is a different ball game and different people have very difference tolerance levels/ranges.

[Rage]

G6x3. My daily driver. 70-100 miles a day. Takes a little getting used to, maybe a week or so, then you don't even remember what stock was. But your permagrin after 3000rpm will remain forever

[376LS3]

I have the Night Fury and love it. The only time it bucks and gets uncomfortable is when youre decelerating around 1800-1500rpm. If youre foots on the gas, it drives like stock at any rpm. You will change your driving habits depending on when it wants to surge. 90% of surge can be tuned out, but you wont get all of it, it is a cammed engine now! I wouldnt change it for anything. The whole car shakes very noticeably at idle, and theres no hiding the sound! Do an entire cam kit. You HAVE to change all parts associated with the cam/valvetrain. Some cams (like the Night Fury) require a 3 bolt timing gear and bolts.
My mod list is:
Night Fury Cam package
SW Long tubes (catted)
ColdAirInductions CAI
25% Underdrive Pulley
Magnaflow Axelback
C5R Timing Chain
LS2 Dampener

[Higgs Boson]

you can tune that out. someone missed it.....two hints, base idle airflow does more than just at idle, and your idle/coastdown/running spark tables may need work.

[376LS3]

I knew surging had to due with timing, but I also thought it was a lean condition. When DFCO turns on and shuts the injectors off, it creates a lean condition. Thats all I attributed that too. I will look into that today, and throw some timing in there. Thanks a lot!!

[Higgs Boson]

you may not want more timing necessarily. let me know if you get it or not. :-)

[376LS3]

Ok, cool! Thanks! How far in SA are you? I live in Kyle, just incase the car doesnt respond to what im doing.

[lynxone]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

if you want to enjoy driving your car as stated I would not go too big.....

something in the high 220 range, especially depending on who tunes your car. i have seen a lot of cars have trouble idling, returning to idle, etc with a tune from some well known tuners, not sure why except that it is almost impossible to make money tuning idle properly since it takes quite a while to do it right. tuning part throttle and WOT is cake, the idle is where all the problems are and what separates the ones who truly know whats up.

If I were you I would get something no bigger than 224/232 on a 114 to 116. I would keep some negative overlap, maybe -10 or so. Once you get positive overlap like +10 you start dealing with exhaust fumes, very rough idle, etc and the one I recommended will still idle "manly." You will get 90% of a bigger cams peak power, more down low, and way better driveability.

Big cams with 70 more peak hp are cool on the dyno but not for the street, IMO. Lots of people will say, "well I drive mine on the street just fine." Sure, so did I. On sunny sundays, no traffic, no lights, no parking lots, etc. Daily driver is a different ball game and different people have very difference tolerance levels/ranges.

Thank you, great advice

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by 376LS3

Ok, cool! Thanks! How far in SA are you? I live in Kyle, just incase the car doesnt respond to what im doing.

I live in Boerne but you can pm me and we can call each other. no need to drive a lot.

[dekan513]

to be honest , it dont bother me about crusing or anything im use to driving old cars with big cams , and yes your tuner can tune it to do better a low speeds. for instance my car idles at 1000 or so , but as soon as my wheels start rolling it idles at 1500 to 2000 depending on speed , it keeps the car from jerking , it makes all the diff in the world but as soon as my clutch is pushed it goes back to normal or if im stopped it back to normal. 1000 rpm idle

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by Rage

G6x3. My daily driver. 70-100 miles a day. Takes a little getting used to, maybe a week or so, then you don't even remember what stock was. But your permagrin after 3000rpm will remain forever

how many miles you got on that DD?

[dekan513]

i was going with the lg g5x3 cause i was afraid of the drivabilty tha some say but , i got to drive a friends that has the g6 and with the right tuner its cake , i do just as much 5 to 10mph driving as i do 60 and 70.

[dekan513]

Originally Posted by 376LS3

I have the Night Fury and love it. The only time it bucks and gets uncomfortable is when youre decelerating around 1800-1500rpm. If youre foots on the gas, it drives like stock at any rpm. You will change your driving habits depending on when it wants to surge. 90% of surge can be tuned out, but you wont get all of it, it is a cammed engine now! I wouldnt change it for anything. The whole car shakes very noticeably at idle, and theres no hiding the sound! Do an entire cam kit. You HAVE to change all parts associated with the cam/valvetrain. Some cams (like the Night Fury) require a 3 bolt timing gear and bolts.
My mod list is:
Night Fury Cam package
SW Long tubes (catted)
ColdAirInductions CAI
25% Underdrive Pulley
Magnaflow Axelback
C5R Timing Chain
LS2 Dampener

yea thats what im talkin about how my tuner makes my car idle high as soon as the car starts to move it gets rid of that , it uses more gas but im not worried about that.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by dekan513

to be honest , it dont bother me about crusing or anything im use to driving old cars with big cams , and yes your tuner can tune it to do better a low speeds. for instance my car idles at 1000 or so , but as soon as my wheels start rolling it idles at 1500 to 2000 depending on speed , it keeps the car from jerking , it makes all the diff in the world but as soon as my clutch is pushed it goes back to normal or if im stopped it back to normal. 1000 rpm idle

dam thats a high idle. but it makes sense if the RPM stay higher the car jerks less.

[dekan513]

950 rpm is whats need to keep the car running with the g6x3 its a big ass cam , but the 1500 or 2000 when moving keeps the car from jerkin when slowing down with the motor only. (engine brake). but as soon as u press the clutch its back to 950 to 1000.

[dekan513]

i can put my car in 6th gear with its cam and tune at 60 mph and it wont jerk , the only time it jerks is like free wheeling in gear.

[376LS3]

Ive got my idle at 850rpm. Im gonna take a look at the table Hobbs suggested. I never touched the decel timing table. Ill see if it wants more timing or less timing, and report back with any findings.

[376LS3]

Originally Posted by dekan513

i can put my car in 6th gear with its cam and tune at 60 mph and it wont jerk , the only time it jerks is like free wheeling in gear.

Thats exactly how mine is. I just usually dont use 6th at 60 because I lost some torque down low, and dont want to bog the engine down.

[camarostar2010]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

if you want to enjoy driving your car as stated I would not go too big.....

something in the high 220 range, especially depending on who tunes your car. i have seen a lot of cars have trouble idling, returning to idle, etc with a tune from some well known tuners, not sure why except that it is almost impossible to make money tuning idle properly since it takes quite a while to do it right. tuning part throttle and WOT is cake, the idle is where all the problems are and what separates the ones who truly know whats up.

If I were you I would get something no bigger than 224/232 on a 114 to 116. I would keep some negative overlap, maybe -10 or so. Once you get positive overlap like +10 you start dealing with exhaust fumes, very rough idle, etc and the one I recommended will still idle "manly." You will get 90% of a bigger cams peak power, more down low, and way better driveability.

Big cams with 70 more peak hp are cool on the dyno but not for the street, IMO. Lots of people will say, "well I drive mine on the street just fine." Sure, so did I. On sunny sundays, no traffic, no lights, no parking lots, etc. Daily driver is a different ball game and different people have very difference tolerance levels/ranges.

I couldnt agree more. The more aggressive a cam, the more u ill hate it...in traffic, parking, sitting at the light giving it gas as not to shut off