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JusticePete · 07-31-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blizzard

So we now see the 1LE is very capable and has beaten the Boss and matched the GT500 at VIR, but I still want a Z28. It appears the 1LE was everything most of us wanted from a Z28 minus the LS7, but what I don't understand is why GM didn't call it a Z28. Yes the 1LE in history was a Z28 just upgraded, but why go away from history like this.

A Z/28 should have 6 pot front brakes... the 1LE is a GREAT VALUE option, but a 1LE does not a Z/28 make.

Blizzard · 07-31-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This package is living up to the 1LE. This package is missing some things for it to be a Z28.

But thats the problem, maybe its missing something from being a 1LE.

When the 1LE was first introduced it was and upgrade to the 3rd gen Z28, just seems backwards now.

Don't get me wrong I still want a LS7 Z28 like we have all discussed for a long time now.

2cnd chance · 07-31-2012, 02:13 PM

From a marketing standpoint it makes more sense this way. Remember GM failed by doing things a certain way. Now they are built for speed and making better marketing decisions. That's why I know the Z28 will happen most likely a Q1/2013 showing and a Q3/2013 availability.

wildpaws · 07-31-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blizzard

But thats the problem, maybe its missing something from being a 1LE.

When the 1LE was first introduced it was and upgrade to the 3rd gen Z28, just seems backwards now.

Don't get me wrong I still want a LS7 Z28 like we have all discussed for a long time now.

If you'll remember, GM got all confused with Z/28s, SS, and 1LE back in the day once they got past the first/second generation, and that confusion still confuses many people that were not around for the first gen and early second gen Z/28. And IMHO a Z/28 should never have essentially the same engine as the SS and perhaps Chevy is mindful of that now. Right now you have SS with an LS3 and the 1LE with essentially the same LS3 (a couple of minor differences), now they need to take the 1LE and upgrade a few things and add an engine with a little more "pepper" to make a new Z/28 for the fifth gen. Camaro.
Clyde

Number 3 · 07-31-2012, 07:25 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, good discussion again.

2cnd chance · 07-31-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, good discussion again.

I don't know that we've ever really heard what your build-able idea of a 5Gen Z28 would be. I'd like to hear it if you don't mind. Thanks.

OldScoolCamaro · 08-01-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

If you'll remember, GM got all confused with Z/28s, SS, and 1LE back in the day once they got past the first/second generation, and that confusion still confuses many people that were not around for the first gen and early second gen Z/28. And IMHO a Z/28 should never have essentially the same engine as the SS and perhaps Chevy is mindful of that now. Right now you have SS with an LS3 and the 1LE with essentially the same LS3 (a couple of minor differences), now they need to take the 1LE and upgrade a few things and add an engine with a little more "pepper" to make a new Z/28 for the fifth gen. Camaro.
Clyde

Exactly! Soooo, taking "pepper" into account, going by past practice, it's either a new certified engine model/designation, which is too late in the game to introduce, or, one that's ready to go. That being said, the only viable alternative is the LS7.

OldScoolCamaro · 08-01-2012, 09:30 PM

Awfully quiet, everyone's gone to Camaro Fest I guess.....

Number 3 · 08-01-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Awfully quiet, everyone's gone to Camaro Fest I guess.....

Yessssir. I was just going to post that the Fest is upon us and it generally gets a bit quiet in The House.

Kind of like when those noisy neighbors go on vacation I guess.

But hey, itz all good. Lot of pics to look through from Indy.

JusticePete · 08-02-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Yessssir. I was just going to post that the Fest is upon us and it generally gets a bit quiet in The House.

Kind of like when those noisy neighbors go on vacation I guess.

But hey, itz all good. Lot of pics to look through from Indy.

Since I may be the noisiest neighbor

We are out thinking ourselves. The L/28 and Raymond's Performance Camaros out ran everything at Putnam Park. They passed everything on track and some twice. We are so smart, we are trying to make them faster. I know we have lost our minds when we have a 6:30 am appoint tomorrow at with the machine shop

We have the technology. We can rebuild it. Faster. Stronger. We'll we could if we had 6 Million Dollars

Number 3 · 08-02-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Since I may be the noisiest neighbor

We are out thinking ourselves. The L/28 and Raymond's Performance Camaros out ran everything at Putnam Park. They passed everything on track and some twice. We are so smart, we are trying to make them faster. I know we have lost our minds when we have a 6:30 am appoint tomorrow at with the machine shop

We have the technology. We can rebuild it. Faster. Stronger. We'll we could if we had 6 Million Dollars

6 million doesn't go as far as it did in the 70s

Number 3 · 08-02-2012, 08:29 PM

Seeeeeee Festquietness in full force.

Hope they are having a great time.

2cnd chance · 08-02-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Seeeeeee Festquietness in full force.

Hope they are having a great time.

Yes, they must be.

Number 3 I'm not sure if you missed this or you can't reply, but I'll ask again. "I don't know that we've ever really heard what "your" build-able idea of a 5Gen Z28 would be. I'd like to hear it if you don't mind. Thanks."

Thanks Again.

PYROLYSIS · 08-03-2012, 12:44 AM

.ph

Not sure if this link worked. Saw some interesting info in this thread about the Hotwheels Camaro. Looks like some parts may be in the system. I know quite a few guys in here like the hood. Haven't heard about specific parts yet but well see.

PYROLYSIS · 08-03-2012, 12:45 AM

IPOD is crap. Look in Camaro5fest thread titled cars GM is bringing to the fest. Read the first page.

PYROLYSIS · 08-03-2012, 12:49 AM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240500

Maybe this worked.

2cnd chance · 08-03-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

.ph

Not sure if this link worked. Saw some interesting info in this thread about the Hotwheels Camaro. Looks like some parts may be in the system. I know quite a few guys in here like the hood. Haven't heard about specific parts yet but well see.

Awesome! I love that hood. It screams Z28!

Bhobbs · 08-03-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Awesome! I love that hood. It screams Z28!

Haha I think we have a problem here. I am not a fan of that hood at all. It may grow on me but I would prefer not to have it.

wildpaws · 08-03-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Haha I think we have a problem here. I am not a fan of that hood at all. It may grow on me but I would prefer not to have it.

I'm not real fond of that hood either, maybe it would grow on me, maybe not.
Clyde

2cnd chance · 08-03-2012, 06:04 PM

Have either of you seen the Hotwheels Camaro photoshopped in different colors? You might like it better. Search the photoshop section for Hotwheels.

PYROLYSIS · 08-03-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Have either of you seen the Hotwheels Camaro photoshopped in different colors? You might like it better. Search the photoshop section for Hotwheels.

Yeah, I always thought I would like it better in blue or black.

2cnd chance · 08-03-2012, 06:33 PM

The black, orange and red look great.

wildpaws · 08-03-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Have either of you seen the Hotwheels Camaro photoshopped in different colors? You might like it better. Search the photoshop section for Hotwheels.

I think it just reminds me too much of the first gen. SS hood.
Clyde

2cnd chance · 08-03-2012, 07:56 PM

But it seems to be real not fake. Great for cooling and pressure release, to improve handling.

JusticePete · 08-04-2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

6 million doesn't go as far as it did in the 70s

Too true.

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Seeeeeee Festquietness in full force.

It is not quiet here.

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Hope they are having a great time.

Great is an understatement. Wish you, Shno and all the rest were here.

07-31-2012, 07:25 PM	#10030
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '11 Cruze Turbo & '13 Audi S4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,145 View My Garage	Ahhhhhhhhhhh, good discussion again. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Link to Every Camaro photo I've taken in Hi-Resolution

08-01-2012, 09:30 PM	#10033
OldScoolCamaro ZL1 177 Pilot Drives: 2012 ZL1, 1973 Z-28 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In the WAYBAC machine somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,443	Awfully quiet, everyone's gone to Camaro Fest I guess..... __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

08-02-2012, 08:29 PM	#10037
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '11 Cruze Turbo & '13 Audi S4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,145 View My Garage	Seeeeeee Festquietness in full force. Hope they are having a great time. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Link to Every Camaro photo I've taken in Hi-Resolution

08-03-2012, 12:44 AM	#10039
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR (Engine 24) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Charleston SC Posts: 2,543 View My Garage	.ph Not sure if this link worked. Saw some interesting info in this thread about the Hotwheels Camaro. Looks like some parts may be in the system. I know quite a few guys in here like the hood. Haven't heard about specific parts yet but well see. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

08-03-2012, 12:45 AM	#10040
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR (Engine 24) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Charleston SC Posts: 2,543 View My Garage	IPOD is crap. Look in Camaro5fest thread titled cars GM is bringing to the fest. Read the first page. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

07-31-2012, 02:13 PM	#10028
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,247	From a marketing standpoint it makes more sense this way. Remember GM failed by doing things a certain way. Now they are built for speed and making better marketing decisions. That's why I know the Z28 will happen most likely a Q1/2013 showing and a Q3/2013 availability.

08-03-2012, 12:49 AM	#10041
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR (Engine 24) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: North Charleston SC Posts: 2,543 View My Garage	http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240500 Maybe this worked. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

08-03-2012, 06:04 PM	#10045
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,247	Have either of you seen the Hotwheels Camaro photoshopped in different colors? You might like it better. Search the photoshop section for Hotwheels.

08-03-2012, 06:33 PM	#10047
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,247	The black, orange and red look great.

08-03-2012, 07:56 PM	#10049
2cnd chance It Will Be Mine Drives: A 2014 Z28 or a C7? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,247	But it seems to be real not fake. Great for cooling and pressure release, to improve handling.

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