BMR or Pfadt? Is there a difference?

[NDC123]

Does anyone know if there is a difference or if there is a reason to pick one over the other?

[caverman]

Two different companies. Two different ways to make suspension mods.

You'll have to look at each companies parts and determine if the price difference is what you're willing to pay or not. Both are good companies IMO but everyone has their own preference.

[Apex Chase]

Originally Posted by caverman

Two different companies. Two different ways to make suspension mods.

You'll have to look at each companies parts and determine if the price difference is what you're willing to pay or not. Both are good companies IMO but everyone has their own preference.

BINGO.

NDC123, to answer which parts would be best for your application will take some more info from you. We represent both brands and I would be happy to discuss it in more detail. Shoot me a PM anytime.

[NDC123]

I am shooting for about 500hp N/A and my main objective will be the 1/4 mile whether it be on the street or on the track. I have the Pedders street z package right now and I am looking to go from there a little bit at a time. I would rather pay more for the better product if there is such a thing in each upgrade situation.

[grocerygetter]

apex is your answer. Talk to them...he will guide you. I will say this...I like both products but the scant weight of the trailing arm and toelink from Pfadt is awesome.

[PfadtRacing]

It's been pretty much touched on already. Two different good companies who make some similar products but generally go about their designs in different ways. We really focus on making our parts lighter and stronger for each application... an example would be our Trailing Arms and Toe Rods, both of which are lighter and stronger and include all bushings needed for installation.

Apex is a great resource since they carry both of our products. Definitely give them a call and see what their impressions are.

[Apex Chase]

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

apex is your answer. Talk to them...he will guide you. I will say this...I like both products but the scant weight of the trailing arm and toelink from Pfadt is awesome.

Originally Posted by PfadtRacing

Apex is a great resource since they carry both of our products. Definitely give them a call and see what their impressions are.

Thanks.

[NDC123]

thanks, yea i am around 420-430rwhp right now and i am having all kinds of trouble hooking up already so i am looking for a setup that will go up to my projected future horsepower.

[HufferSS]

The difference that a Pfadt system makes on your car is simply incredible. I have their drag pack setup with all the bushings and arms and drag coil overs. Zero wheel hop even with an M6 and just a touch of power.......

I have not used BMR...probably good stuff but if you want top shelf then Pfadt is the way to go imho. If you are into drag racing check out the last issue of GMHT....they have a feature on the drag coilover setup...knocked a little over a tenth off my 60' time which is 2 to 3 tenths off the big end of the track.

[Apex Chase]

Originally Posted by NDC123

thanks, yea i am around 420-430rwhp right now and i am having all kinds of trouble hooking up already so i am looking for a setup that will go up to my projected future horsepower.

The sub frame inserts are a good option for stock and lightly modified cars but if you are at 430 and shooting for 500 you will need more. Especially if you are planning on hitting the strip. To improve traction and help plant that power I recommend the following:


Solid sub frame bushings: These will completely eliminate rear sub frame movement rather than reduce/limit it.

Rear arm package: Upgraded trailing arms and toe rods will prevent toe changes under aggressive acceleration and braking that reduces traction and contributes to wheel hop.

Differential bushings: These will also help prevent wheel hop. Be very careful when selecting these. There is only one set I completely trust.

Lower control arm bushings: These help control camber during aggressive maneuvering.


The above is will make a dramatic difference. If you have any questions or would like to discuss it in more detail feel free to shoot me a PM.

[Awesome_SS]

Went to the strip at the Fest and could really feel that the power transferred to the pavement. The car really hooked up well and best of all probably prevented me from breaking something on the car. I have the complete BMR suspension package.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by Awesome_SS

Went to the strip at the Fest and could really feel that the power transferred to the pavement. The car really hooked up well and best of all probably prevented me from breaking something on the car. I have the complete BMR suspension package.

We are glad you are happy with your BMR Suspension and we really appreciate your feedback. We feel for the price, our parts are really hard to beat. Building everything in-house lets us insure that the quality is top notch and we can transfer the affordability to the customer. Many other suspension companies aren't able to do this so there parts tend to be more expensive.

[MikeMoach]

I have a BMR set up I jus ordered from apex can't wait to get it installed, I'm curious about the weight difference and how the 2 products differ

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by MikeMoach

I have a BMR set up I jus ordered from apex can't wait to get it installed, I'm curious about the weight difference and how the 2 products differ

I am not sure of the weight difference between us and them but there shouldn't be that big of a difference as far as weight goes. The nice thing is that a little extra weight in the rear suspension isn't really a bad thing at all because it can actually add to the stability of the parts and the suspension overall and further reduce wheel hop and increase performance.

[MikeMoach]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

I am not sure of the weight difference between us and them but there shouldn't be that big of a difference as far as weight goes. The nice thing is that a little extra weight in the rear suspension isn't really a bad thing at all because it can actually add to the stability of the parts and the suspension overall and further reduce wheel hop and increase performance.

I like that answer thank you

[NDC123]

I am looking to put more power to the ground and I am considering the arms and links. Any time I punch it in first or second it just spins and I don't like it. I want it to hook up better on the street. And I intend to go with a cam very soon so it will only get worse. I just want the best way to hook up not gain a ton of weight in the process.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by NDC123

I am looking to put more power to the ground and I am considering the arms and links. Any time I punch it in first or second it just spins and I don't like it. I want it to hook up better on the street. And I intend to go with a cam very soon so it will only get worse. I just want the best way to hook up not gain a ton of weight in the process.

If all you are doing currently is spinning the first thing I would concentrate on is getting a better set of tires with a better/softer traction compound. The trailing arms and toe rods will help control the rear suspension movement much better which will help with wheel hop and will help out with straight line performance but it sounds like your main issue is that you are overpowering the tire.

[NDC123]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

If all you are doing currently is spinning the first thing I would concentrate on is getting a better set of tires with a better/softer traction compound. The trailing arms and toe rods will help control the rear suspension movement much better which will help with wheel hop and will help out with straight line performance but it sounds like your main issue is that you are overpowering the tire.

I agree and that is part of this upgrade as well. I know getting better tires will definitely give me more traction. That is where I figured the wheel hop would come in is once I got some tires that would hook. Just trying to take care of it preemptively. I don't know....made sense to me.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by NDC123

I agree and that is part of this upgrade as well. I know getting better tires will definitely give me more traction. That is where I figured the wheel hop would come in is once I got some tires that would hook. Just trying to take care of it preemptively. I don't know....made sense to me.

You are definitely correct in your thinking. When you are ready to start working on the suspension get with me and I will work with you to get you set up with the parts you need for a price you like.

[NDC123]

Thanks a ton

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by NDC123

Thanks a ton

Not a problem, if there are any other questions I can answer for you let me know.

Kyle