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Old 08-14-2012, 10:14 PM   #4926
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in all fairness, i was talking about the first one from 2 years ago
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:24 AM   #4927
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:10 PM   #4928
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I know there are a ton of Clutch Reservoir DIY's out there.

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Old 08-15-2012, 01:14 PM   #4929
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:28 PM   #4930
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I know there are a ton of Clutch Reservoir DIY's out there.

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Nicely done Grasshopper.

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Old 08-15-2012, 01:34 PM   #4931
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wow... now if I can just snatch that damn pebble from your hand... I'll be good to go...




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Now I really feel retarded.
LOL The guys helping me with my brakes did it while I was doing something else...

For some reason looking at the new reservoir installed made a lot more sense than just holding it in my hand.

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Old 08-15-2012, 02:01 PM   #4932
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Good god man, what did you do to the top of that coilover? That nut is decimated!

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Old 08-15-2012, 02:36 PM   #4933
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:50 PM   #4934
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Good god man, what did you do to the top of that coilover? That nut is decimated!

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actually it looks like a little bit of rust on the nut.. the shape is intact if you look closely.

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Old 08-15-2012, 02:52 PM   #4935
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That nuts been off and on probably 20 times (easily). The nut in the picture that is.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:35 PM   #4936
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Good god man, what did you do to the top of that coilover? That nut is decimated!

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OH man... that nut was a B!TC# to get on... I had to use the impact wrench to loosen the threads on the stock struts before I could get it on the Pedders coilovers with hand tools.

Both of them were way tight... IIRC they are a lock nut so they get tighter the further down you go....

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actually it looks like a little bit of rust on the nut.. the shape is intact if you look closely.

Chris must be hanging out at the beach in the salt spray...
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That nuts been off and on probably 20 times (easily). The nut in the picture that is.
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alright, i'm lost now.
why'd you need a new clutch reservoir?
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:47 PM   #4938
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OH man... that nut was a B!TC# to get on... I had to use the impact wrench to loosen the threads on the stock struts before I could get it on the Pedders coilovers with hand tools.

Both of them were way tight... IIRC they are a lock nut so they get tighter the further down you go....



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Old 08-15-2012, 03:47 PM   #4939
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alright, i'm lost now.
why'd you need a new clutch reservoir?
Because there isn't a separate resevoir. It shares the brake fluid resevoir.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:50 PM   #4940
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Because there isn't a separate resevoir. It shares the brake fluid resevoir.
This! we get some nasty clutch dust contamination from the shared reservoir.

Separating it keeps the brake fluid... cleaner...
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Because there isn't a separate resevoir. It shares the brake fluid resevoir.
Yes you want a separate clutch fluid reservoir. you don't want contaminants in the brake system.

And if you drive a standard transmission, the clutch fluid picks up a whole lot of clutch particle dust from the slave cylander. The fluid needs to be changed out occasionally.

I used to use a baby's snot sucker - looks like this, to suck up the old fluid and then add fresh fluid in the clutch reservoir.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:32 PM   #4942
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Yes you want a separate clutch fluid reservoir. you don't want contaminants in the brake system.

And if you drive a standard transmission, the clutch fluid picks up a whole lot of clutch particle dust from the slave cylander. The fluid needs to be changed out occasionally.

I used to use a baby's snot sucker - looks like this, to suck up the old fluid and then add fresh fluid in the clutch reservoir.
i understand why you want separate reservoirs & the whole clutch dust in the fluid & all...
but you're telling me that y'all's cars have a combined clutch & brake reservoir?!
that just seems like a ridiculous lack of engineering right there

and for mine, i have a big kitchen syringe with the tip of the needle cut off flat i'm guessing y'all typically just do the ranger method do clean your fluid?
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:06 PM   #4943
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OH man... that nut was a B!TC# to get on... I had to use the impact wrench to loosen the threads on the stock struts before I could get it on the Pedders coilovers with hand tools.

Both of them were way tight... IIRC they are a lock nut so they get tighter the further down you go....



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Lololol. Had to say it, just cause mine look about the same. I did the same thing with my stock strut, run that damn nut on and off a million times so it would get tight on the xa's. Pete and his extreme tolerances.... ;-)
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:49 PM   #4944
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i understand why you want separate reservoirs & the whole clutch dust in the fluid & all...
but you're telling me that y'all's cars have a combined clutch & brake reservoir?!
that just seems like a ridiculous lack of engineering right there

and for mine, i have a big kitchen syringe with the tip of the needle cut off flat i'm guessing y'all typically just do the ranger method do clean your fluid?
Yeah.. GM saved... what.. about $1.00 in their build cost combining the reservoirs? Or.. they wanted to make more money selling reservoirs over the parts counter...

most do the ranger method.

I pity the people who havn't seperated the reservoir's and drive their cars normal.. not knowing that that crap is gonna get into everything Clutch and brake, at some time. That's gonna be an expensive fix if you left it for a few years of normal driving and didn't know about it..

Some, like me added the Tick Performance SS bleed line. I can flush the clutch fluid in under 5 minutes through the entire system, not just the reservoir. I do it after every race.

I already replaced the fluid from the Camaro fest.. and have my ABS working again now, too.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #4945
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Yeah.. GM saved... what.. about $1.00 in their build cost combining the reservoirs? Or.. they wanted to make more money selling reservoirs over the parts counter...

most do the ranger method.

I pity the people who havn't seperated the reservoir's and drive their cars normal.. not knowing that that crap is gonna get into everything Clutch and brake, at some time. That's gonna be an expensive fix if you left it for a few years of normal driving and didn't know about it..

Some, like me added the Tick Performance SS bleed line. I can flush the clutch fluid in under 5 minutes through the entire system, not just the reservoir. I do it after every race.

I already replaced the fluid from the Camaro fest.. and have my ABS working again now, too.
I'm still on a common reservoir... But I also have the bleeder line and frequently flush the lines... All clean and good... So far... A clutch res will not fit there on my car... Boost controller solenoids are mounted there...
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Well I track my car so I need to look into this.
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Some, like me added the Tick Performance SS bleed line.
Wow, thanks for posting. Was just racking my brain this morning, trying to remember who made it.
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The separate clutch reservoir does keep your fluid cleaner. It does nothing to enhance performance and according to my experts the discoloration nof the fluid does not degrade performance.
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The separate clutch reservoir does keep your fluid cleaner. It does nothing to enhance performance and according to my experts the discoloration nof the fluid does not degrade performance.
well my non-expertise begs to differ. after i learned about the ranger method about a year & a half ago, i decided to test it out. i went out in my truck, which has the standard New Venture NV3500 5 speed transmission - notorious for having a horrible time trying to do a high-rpm 2-3 shift after launching in 1st - much like the f-body T56, and partially for the same reason.

test 1: went out as it sat, drove around a little to warm the truck up & then pulled from a dig. ran up to about 5500 in 2nd, and (as usual) had to double-clutch to successfully get it in 3rd. nothing new.

variable: changed the fluid in the clutch reservoir using the ranger method til everything stayed clear when i pumped the pedal. mind you, this was the first time i'd changed the fluid since i bought it in '06 and put a new clutch in (and even then, it wasn't a real flush - just a top-off).

test 2: drove out to the same place as before & from a dig, i launched, revved, and slammed second. now for the moment of truth... wound it up to about 5500 and BAM!!!! 3rd went right in. amazed & thinking it was a fluke, i turned around & did it again - this time up to 6000. once again, shifted right in with one pedal push. even on a third kicks-and-giggles run, i got the same single-pedal-effort results.

conclusion: i believe the clean fluid does, in fact, make a difference. i believe it's partly due to the design of my particular system. much like the 4th gen T56 clutch line from the master to the slave, the trucks also have a restriction in the hydraulic line. my year's system ain't just a little restrictor inside the end that can be drilled out; half of it's braided line that then molds to a narrower piece of hard plastic flex line. my belief is that the clutch dust getting in the fluid gives it a higher viscosity & therefore can't flow quite fast enough to meet the demand of refilling the reservoir in time to shift to 3rd - thus requiring another pump of the pedal to get enough fluid inside the slave to fully disengage the plate. the clean fluid, however, seemed to be able to do this much better.

outcome: when i got home, i rangered out my car's fluid as well.

note: the fluid starts getting dark after a few drives anyway, and at low RPMs with slower/smoother shifts, it don't really matter that much. but it would definitely help when racing.

my next steps: get speed bleeders on both vehicles next time i put clutches in.
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actually it looks like a little bit of rust on the nut.. the shape is intact if you look closely.

Chris must be hanging out at the beach in the salt spray...
It's okay, rusty nuts happen occasionally as we get older.... don't worry about it Chris, I'm sure they still work just fine
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