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Old 08-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #26
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I find it hard to believe that the stock intake(2nd place) was better than the CIA intake (3rd place)...lol..I'll keep mine and leave the stock intake in storage.Tests were done in temps ranging from 46 degrees to 73 degrees.

The CIA intake made 17 more horsepower that the stocker and that was without the scoop.
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I put my stock air box back on a few days ago and then last evening put the Wedge on to see if the difference was more or less than felt with the Vararam OTR intake. After driving around last night and making the 30 mile trip into work this morning, it is hard to say. The Vararam seemed to benefit more, but honestly it is hard to tell. Normally the trips home in the afternoon give me a better indicator but it's supposed to be extremely hot today. While the vararam deals with excessive ambient temps the stock box doesn't.

Fueling - Wedge versus no wedge with the stock box. The LTFTs were identical everywhere. If there is additional airflow it would have to be measured at WOT with a wideband. As discussed elsewhere it seems as if any gains are from a change in airflow distribution.
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I put my stock air box back on a few days ago and then last evening put the Wedge on to see if the difference was more or less than felt with the Vararam OTR intake. After driving around last night and making the 30 mile trip into work this morning, it is hard to say. The Vararam seemed to benefit more, but honestly it is hard to tell. Normally the trips home in the afternoon give me a better indicator but it's supposed to be extremely hot today. While the vararam deals with excessive ambient temps the stock box doesn't.

Fueling - Wedge versus no wedge with the stock box. The LTFTs were identical everywhere. If there is additional airflow it would have to be measured at WOT with a wideband. As discussed elsewhere it seems as if any gains are from a change in airflow distribution.
I measured this with a wideband. No change.

I agree that any changes are cylinder distribution related.
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I measured this with a wideband. No change.

I agree that any changes are cylinder distribution related.
Rabamaro's dyno sheets from Lethal Racing showed that as well.
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Rabamaro's dyno sheets from Lethal Racing showed that as well.
oh yeah, i just looked at the hp column and was like, wtf???
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Higgs I wasn't mad just being polarizing.

Again drove in heavy traffic, a little wot action merging onto the highway. I still think it helps torque down low, even as low as 1500. L99'ers, when you go to pass folks and give your car light gas, does it downshift? Mine is downshifting less. That's telling me that in the low to mid-range, I have more power.

I'll shoot for an extra mph, but I plan to raise my shift points too.
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I'm still skeptical on this. Who doesn't love some extra TQ down low, but this just seems too good to be true. Then again, I haven't really read any bad reviews. I would just like to see some irrefutable data.
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I'm still skeptical on this. Who doesn't love some extra TQ down low, but this just seems too good to be true. Then again, I haven't really read any bad reviews. I would just like to see some irrefutable data.

Good Freakin Grief. It is a no risk item. Try it for yourself and give us your irrefutable data.

Just a heads up. You are going to look at this thing and think no way can this do anything at all, postive or negative. Other than the tilt, it almost completely disappears behind the TB. I almost want to flip it upside down to see if it kills some tq, since I have more than I need already.
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That guy Rhino something milled his TB to adjust the angle, like y'all are saying, maybe it's helping the distribution.

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Everybody keeps talking about this, but nobody has been able to show an actual increase in anything other than their butt Dyno.
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Everybody keeps talking about this, but nobody has been able to show an actual increase in anything other than their butt Dyno.
My butt Dyno was numb to the wedge as I posted earlier.

But I went to the track tonight and finally got into the 12s. The funny part though is every time I have ever been to the track (three times so far) I have had the wedge. Maybe it has helped me, a real track newbie who stages with his back wheels at times, run respectable even though I still cannot drive.
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My butt Dyno was numb to the wedge as I posted earlier.

But I went to the track tonight and finally got into the 12s. The funny part though is every time I have ever been to the track (three times so far) I have had the wedge. Maybe it has helped me, a real track newbie who stages with his back wheels at times, run respectable even though I still cannot drive.
With your mods you shouldn't have a problem breaking into the 12's without the wedge
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My butt Dyno was numb to the wedge as I posted earlier.

But I went to the track tonight and finally got into the 12s. The funny part though is every time I have ever been to the track (three times so far) I have had the wedge. Maybe it has helped me, a real track newbie who stages with his back wheels at times, run respectable even though I still cannot drive.
Congrats Was the DA any better this time?
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Everybody keeps talking about this, but nobody has been able to show an actual increase in anything other than their butt Dyno.
My average hp and tq increased 12 and 13.5 respectively, most of which can be attributed to the substantial gains below 5500rpm.
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I've had my Wedge on for a week now and still think its helping to make the car a bit faster. Yesterday, I took it off to see if the slight whistling/ringing noise I hear at light acceleration was due to an air leak. Everything looked fine and reinstalled it being extra carefull with the gasket. Car still has the noise and runs without any problems. Wondering if anyone else hears this noise.....a few others have posted that they have it also.
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I've had my Wedge on for a week now and still think its helping to make the car a bit faster. Yesterday, I took it off to see if the slight whistling/ringing noise I hear at light acceleration was due to an air leak. Everything looked fine and reinstalled it being extra carefull with the gasket. Car still has the noise and runs without any problems. Wondering if anyone else hears this noise.....a few others have posted that they have it also.
Yes, I do. I have tried all kinds of different torque values. I am starting to think the factory angle of the TB was to eliminate that noise!
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I've had mine installed for 2 days now and the low end feels stronger. Has anybody retuned there car for the wedge. I read through a couple of treads and the airflow dosent change just the distribution so is a retune needed
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I've had mine installed for 2 days now and the low end feels stronger. Has anybody retuned there car for the wedge. I read through a couple of treads and the airflow dosent change just the distribution so is a retune needed
On a Vararam OTR intake re-tuning would be a good idea. The MAF sensor is so close to the throttle body that it needs to be rescaled. The other style intakes have the sensor so far away that it doesn't need tuning.

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Everybody keeps talking about this, but nobody has been able to show an actual increase in anything other than their butt Dyno.
Lethal Racing was nice enough to do dynos with and without the Wedge for Rabamaro. The info was posted.

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I almost want to flip it upside down to see if it kills some tq, since I have more than I need already.
Now that I've thought about this seriously, shouldn't installing this upside down take away some HP and TQ? I'm pretty sure I'm going to give it a go this morning.
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Now that I've thought about this seriously, shouldn't installing this upside down take away some HP and TQ? I'm pretty sure I'm going to give it a go this morning.
Cool, looking forward to that. I'm going out to wash my car before it gets too hot! They are building on the lot next to us and it is filthy!
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Cool, looking forward to that. I'm going out to wash my car before it gets too hot! They are building on the lot next to us and it is filthy!
Not sure what is wrong with me, but I hate to wash my car. I rather be wrenching than washing, but sometimes there is no choice. Black car and daily driver was a bad choice for me.

On my way out to the garage to flip the wedge.
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