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Old 08-25-2012, 09:58 PM   #15
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I'd say dyno both of them back to back on the same day and see what turns out.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:57 PM   #16
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While owers may over oil what I said was correct. I can't tell how many new K&N filters I've opened and either oil was pooled on the plastic or soaked into the box.

As long as the box isolates the filter from the direct engine heat and the air is coming from outside then a short ram can be a cold air intake.
How many K&N filters did you open? And why did you keep going back to K&N? Sorry but putting a "box" over a filter, in the same hot location, is not true cold air to me.
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:48 PM   #17
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I love my CAI. Works wonderfully and looks far better under my hood. Im not biased though. I also run K&N on the Trans Am and have on two prior camaros and liked them however the auto program i attend at a nearby college absolutely hates K&N. All the professors have called them junk.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:12 AM   #18
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Whisked away to Off Topic Discussion where no one will see it... Figures.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:28 PM   #19
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Whisked away to Off Topic Discussion where no one will see it... Figures.
when are you goign to be selling yours??? I WANT IT!
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:44 PM   #20
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I'll give you 100.00 for it. I know you wouldn't feel right overcharging me on something that by your own admission doesn't work.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:39 PM   #21
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when are you goign to be selling yours??? I WANT IT!
Haha, my CAI brand intake has been for sale on the members classifieds for about a week, just sold it yesterday, shipped today.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #22
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I'll give you 100.00 for it. I know you wouldn't feel right overcharging me on something that by your own admission doesn't work.
i'll let you guys know. i'll try to make as much money back as I can on it. actually doing alot of research on Vararam now.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:06 PM   #23
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Very interesting thread
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:12 PM   #24
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Very interesting thread
Ha of course you bump this. Did pep boys pay you to do it?
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:57 PM   #25
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm betting the hood was open during the dyno runs which would give the advantage to the K&N. When the hood is closed, it functions much like the Cold Air Inductions and seals using the hood liner. A fair comparison wound be to dyno it with the hood closed.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:05 PM   #26
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm betting the hood was open during the dyno runs which would give the advantage to the K&N. When the hood is closed, it functions much like the Cold Air Inductions and seals using the hood liner. A fair comparison wound be to dyno it with the hood closed.
I think it was probably more to do with him getting out and pushing
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:22 AM   #27
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Very interesting thread
Here are a few more threads in this same section that are really old that you may find interesting and want to bump!!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239675&highlight=%22cold+air+indu ctions%22
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222101&highlight=%22cold+air+indu ctions%22
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172532&highlight=%22cold+air+indu ctions%22
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58354&highlight=%22cold+air+induc tions%22
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187928&highlight=%22cai+intake%22

Also 3 of the "complaints" that the OP had are really more of opinion than actual negative attributes backed by fact regarding our product.

Complaint 1: Paper filter - Our filter is not paper, it is a lifetime use oiled filter media which consists of interwoven cotton fiber that is protected by a mesh screen. It has a lifetime warranty and looks, feels, and flows nothing like a paper filter. It is 7 layers, most of our competitors have 5 layers.

Complaint 2: Our intake tube got really hot to the touch in the engine bay - Perfect, that means that the thermal coating we apply to the INSIDE of the intake tube is doing its job perfectly. Its a hot engine bay and the intake tube is metal, touch anything connected to your engine made of metal and it will probably feel hot. We are much more concerned with the IAT then the outside of the tube. If you touch the intake tube on our system and it is hot, that means our thermal coating is doing its job perfectly and keeping the heat on the outside of the intake tube as opposed to allowing the heat to soak through and effect the intake air. Numerous tests and consumer data logging has shown that our CAI will keep IAT within 2 degrees of ambient on average. If you touch your intake tube and its not hot when everything else in the engine bay is, you have to ask where the heat is going, I'll give you a hint, just take a look at the IAT.

Complaint 3: Bubble wrap heat shield - We us an enclosed aluminum airbox that fits and seals to the contours of your engine bay perfectly to keep heat out. The insulation barrier we use on the inside of the airbox (which is an additional layer of insulation that is not found on most basic heat shields) provides an added R value to further reduce heat soak from the engine bay. I am not sure how the visual appearance of the insulation we use has any bearing on it's R value or insulating properties. Ever look at the insulation on a new home, typically it will look like cotton candy and lint balls, yet the R value keeps your house cool in the summer and warm in the winter. The insulation barrier that we add to the inside of the CAI box is another way we keep IAT so low.




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Ha of course you bump this. Did pep boys pay you to do it?
I'm beginning to think there may be some truth to this ideology.

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I know this is an old thread, but I'm betting the hood was open during the dyno runs which would give the advantage to the K&N. When the hood is closed, it functions much like the Cold Air Inductions and seals using the hood liner. A fair comparison wound be to dyno it with the hood closed.
You are absolutely correct, you can test the same product 3 different ways and get 3 different sets of results. This why 3rd party testing in a CONTROLLED environment is so helpful.
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