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Old 09-05-2012, 11:43 AM   #15
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And you think the price of a ZL1 is not rediculous! ???
Yes, the ZL1 price is ridiculous.

However, supercharged 580HP >>>>> 470HP N/A that's in a boat IMO.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:01 PM   #16
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Competition like this is going to keep them all striving to be better than ever...which is great news for us.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:24 PM   #17
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Every time I see these stats I feel like I am patting myself on the back & I have nothing to do with Camaro sales, Chevrolet or the auto industry at all LOL

It's nice rooting for the winning team.
I hear you on that! I bought my Camaro at the end of November 2011.... Since then I've influenced two others (my parents, and another family I know) to buy a 2012 Camaro. It makes me happy to see the Camaro sales figures are back above the Mustang again. Admittedly, I do like what they've done with the 2013 Mustang compared to previous models so I understand their uptick in sales... but I still want the Camaro on top.


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And you think the price of a ZL1 is not rediculous! ???
Are you kidding me? I know I'll upset some but the ZL1 is the Camaro super car... the most powerful factory street-legal Camaro ever... for the price, I think it's an AMAZING deal.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:47 PM   #18
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Actually, I think the New 1LE is going to be the much better deal over the MSRP of the 5th Gen ZL1....Seems like a much more reasonably priced Camaro with some very good performance numbers compared to price.... Folks keep complaining that the ZL1 "isn't a Drag car" but they keep on modding it for the 1/4 mile run and running it at the drag strip and are adding countless amounts of money just to get into the High 11s....It appears the 1LE is a much better bang for your buck...
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:39 PM   #19
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Whatever happened to the forum member The Pill. He used to make these monthly threads entertaining. Not necessarily more informed or intelligent. But more fun to read, at least.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:52 PM   #20
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You woulnt happen to have any info on the number of 45th anniversary cars they built and what they were, LTs v6 to SS v8 Thanks
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:31 PM   #21
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Competition is at all time high.. Long lives the muscle cars
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:51 PM   #22
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Whatever happened to the forum member The Pill. He used to make these monthly threads entertaining. Not necessarily more informed or intelligent. But more fun to read, at least.
He's a troll. you can find him on the svt forum. you actually like that shit?
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:15 PM   #23
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Anyone know how the ZL1 & GT500 sales are doing??
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:24 PM   #24
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Whatever happened to the forum member The Pill. He used to make these monthly threads entertaining. Not necessarily more informed or intelligent. But more fun to read, at least.
The thread is honestly pointless without him, he needs to come back and post now I mean the past 4 months should give him plenty to talk about.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:16 AM   #25
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I'm with you there. The V6 seems competitively priced, but the 5.7 is not good enough. IMO the 6.4 hemi should be what the R/T gets and a SC 6.4 should be in the SRT.
I actually disagree with the both of you on the Challenger, the Dodge doesn't really compete with the Camaro and Mustang head to head. Also if they are ok with the lower sales volume then there isn't much that has to be done about that as well.

In fact as far as price goes around me you can always get a Challenger for $6,000 off MSRP (though I know this may not be the case everywhere).

Though I would say that the issue with the Challenger has less to do with its execution and price and more to do with what it is. Compared to the Camaro and Mustang the Challenger is a large car, the front has more room then the other two. The back seat is actually practical (can seat adults) and has room for 3 in the back making it a 5 seater.

The Dodge Challenger is the closest to a muscle car that you can buy today. It is a very large car, and with a $6,000 discount on the R/T Challenger I can buy a brand new R/T for $25,000. This makes it a great deal cheaper then the Camaro SS and a bit cheaper then the Mustang GT (when you take incentives into account).

This really brings into question how big of a market is there for a pure muscle car, and while I don't doubt that there is a market for it it is a small one.

As far as the 5.7L Hemi goes, in the Challenger it only produces 370BHP while in the Ram trucks it produces 390BHP (and that is with a truck tune). I have no doubt in my mind that Dodge can get the 5.7L Hemi up to 425BHP for the Challenger and mate it to the 8 speed automatic. This will improve both its performance and fuel economy, though I honestly think that while its a better product for its customer base it won't increase its sales.

I honestly believe that this is why the Challenger is going away, and is slated to be replaced with a Cuda which will be more in line with the Camaro/Mustang.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:41 AM   #26
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Competition is at all time high.. Long lives the muscle cars
For now they rule. I'm not so sure we'll not see the history of the 70's repeat itself.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #27
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I would love to see when Ford's fleet sales occur since there seems to be a bump in their sales every summer and then they drop down below Camaro again for the rest of the year. I've heard they play around with their reported sales numbers and that it has something to do with fleet sales.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:56 AM   #28
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its nice to see the camaro have strong sales over the others
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