Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
tandtperformance.com
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons

Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-01-2010, 01:00 PM   #1
iom
 
Drives: 2010 camaro iom ss rs
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: los angeles ca
Posts: 89
Borla atak help !!!!!

Hey guys ,

I have a l99 with 3000 miles , I made up my mine
and decided to go with borla atak .

But I can only afford the axle back.

I know the issue with the bigger resonators
But I'm confuse & here's why .

I owned a hypertech power programmer so I can turn off the afm , so will this fix the problem.

Or do I need the x pipe as well.



1 will the sound and hp be the same with the axle back and cat back if afm is turn off.

2 is there anything els in the catback besides the x pipe that will really matter

3 does anybody know if the atak give you hp ?
Maybe somebody did a dyno with a stock car then
With the borla atak setup.


Thanks for reading
iom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 01:17 PM   #2
usmcjlp

 
Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 755
Axle back will not give you a horsepower gain. You will only change the sound of the vehicle.

Look through previous threads and you will see that long tube headers to include the mid-pipe with stock exhaust will give you just as much gain after tune.

I would consider axle back a cosmetic change. Save your money for headers.
usmcjlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 01:34 PM   #3
lee

 
lee's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2ss/rs
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,017
i just ordered the atak axleback and a magnaflow xpipe , just waiting for the atak to get here so i can get it put on
lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 01:50 PM   #4
iom
 
Drives: 2010 camaro iom ss rs
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: los angeles ca
Posts: 89
Will the catback atak system give you a hp gain ?
iom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 02:43 PM   #5
bi11ymc
"Silver Street"
 
bi11ymc's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Franklin, TN
Posts: 708
From the cats on back, there is not much to be gained in performance. Inside the L99 resonators is an H pipe. An axle back system is just for sound changing, as is a cat-back system. The cat-back system does shed a lot more of the weight, though. Those resonators and mufflers on the Camaro are heavy.

Also, you may be less prone to drone by keeping the resonators.
__________________
Silver Street - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS, SIM, Gray, Cyber Gray Rally Stripes, Polished Wheels, Automatic (L99) - 553 RWHP/510 RWTQ

CAI Inc., ARH LT Headers with Cats, Borla Touring Cat-Back; Pfadt Coil Overs, Sway Bars, End Links, and Trailing Arms; Comp Cams Blower Cam, Dual Springs, Push-Rods, and Lifters; GM LS2 Lifter Trays, 6.2 MLS Head Gaskets, Crank Bolt, and LS2 Front Cover; 3-Bolt Conversion Timing Gear, Katech C5R Timing Chain, ARP LS2/LS3 Head Bolt Kit, Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump, TVS 2300 Supercharger (Black); Build by Vengeance Racing; Custom Tune by Vengeance Racing
bi11ymc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 05:26 PM   #6
iom
 
Drives: 2010 camaro iom ss rs
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: los angeles ca
Posts: 89
Ok ,

So axleback & catback is the same as far as hp goes.


The only difference is the sound h pipe or x pipe .


So is the catback system worth the extra six hundred dollars just for the x pipe.

Is the sound that much different?
iom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 05:57 PM   #7
lee

 
lee's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2ss/rs
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,017
i cant justify spending that much extra extra for the catback , i ordered the axleback and a magnaflo trux and gonna buy a cai with what i saved if i had bought a catback
lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 10:23 PM   #8
iom
 
Drives: 2010 camaro iom ss rs
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: los angeles ca
Posts: 89
I was thinking the same , I am going to go with the axle back

And with the money I save buy a cai.

And also you can always change the h pipe to an x pipe at a later time , I'm sure it will be far less then what borla is
Charging.

I just hope I don't go crazy and start changing the cats and pipe and nex thing you know I'm supercharge lol
iom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2010, 01:55 AM   #9
Bonemaro

 
Bonemaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 RJT 1SS M6
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Canton, Mi.
Posts: 1,695
Send a message via AIM to Bonemaro
Quote:
Originally Posted by iom View Post
I was thinking the same , I am going to go with the axle back

And with the money I save buy a cai.

And also you can always change the h pipe to an x pipe at a later time , I'm sure it will be far less then what borla is
Charging.

I just hope I don't go crazy and start changing the cats and pipe and nex thing you know I'm supercharge lol
Smart move to me. Add a CAI and headers to your existing mid pipes and the axleback and you'll increase your HP by roughly 50 when properly tuned
Bonemaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:02 AM   #10
movalsoldier
K9 CHAOS
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro SS
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lawton, Ok
Posts: 3
hp?

how much horsepower does the borla atak system add to the 2011 camaro ss manual?
movalsoldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:07 AM   #11
Jay_LHD3

 
Jay_LHD3's Avatar
 
Drives: CGM 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SW Georgia
Posts: 1,944
__________________
Jay_LHD3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 08:44 AM   #12
orange-prince
QATAR 2022
 
orange-prince's Avatar
 
Drives: black cts-V coupe a6
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: doha-qatar ( middle east )
Posts: 990
i have kooks lt's and i well go atak axleback cuz the sound with the
stock h-pipe is awsome its like an old muscle car so save your mony
and dont get x-pipe
if you want to go with sc or turbo you should go with 3" x-pipe
if you dont you dont have to change it
orange-prince is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 09:21 AM   #13
EliteCZM523
 
EliteCZM523's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 93
If ur planning on doing LT's, then dont even waste ur money on an X-Pipe, will get thrown out anyways lol.
EliteCZM523 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 11:02 AM   #14
mcdoogle6969

 
mcdoogle6969's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2008 Heritage 300C
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,902
If you want to get headers then pick up the borla axle-back and get LT headers whenever you want them or can afford them.

I have Borla ATAK axle-back and LT ARH's and I am pretty damn happy with the results! I just fell into the power hungry problem and I'm looking at Superchargers right now

Borla said that the ATAK flows better than a straight exhaust....so the power should increase a little.
mcdoogle6969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 07:24 PM   #15
MBraa3
 
MBraa3's Avatar
 
Drives: 1SS/RS, '11, L99, Rally Yellow
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 9
I just read this whole thread.....no one talked at all about gains....
I've heard that it's something in the range of 3hp gain...nothing big apparently....similar to other systems. But Borla is a different sound. In my opinion I like borla way better.

Another question/Concern of mine.......the SS has two big resonators underneath, I would assume that those would congest(compared to Borla Cat-Back) the whole flow of the exhaust...wouldn't you??? Better lungs on a car = better performance right? ie. Aftermarket CAI.
Get a tune after CAI and Cat-Back installation and you should be good to go.

Agreed???
MBraa3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 07:35 PM   #16
Mr. iNCREDIBLE


 
Mr. iNCREDIBLE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Convertible
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: SoCal Baby...
Posts: 2,296
why does anyone care about HP gains unless you are tracking the car?

HP is a high rpm rating.. unless you plan on red lining the car all the time what is the big deal?

cat back exhaust is purely for sound, nothing more.. LT's and hi-flows will get your car to breath better but without a real CAI and a tune, again IMO pointless, and if you are not tracking the car why bother?

the speed limit most everywhere is 65mph. hard accel will net you a reckless or speed competition ticket, so adding ungawdly amounts of power again unless you track the car is pointless.

and IMO $500 + for a axle back that only changes the sound is pure madness. that mod is worth about $150 tops..

I'll never understand the desire for more and more HP on a car that is driven on the street 99% of the time.
Mr. iNCREDIBLE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 07:50 PM   #17
RyanBoles
 
RyanBoles's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Meridian, MS
Posts: 132
My 2 cents for what its worth...just buy two borla mufflers of your choice and have a decent muffler shop replace the factory cans. I did this but used flowmaster it only cost around 150$ mufflers included. Save your money the axle back is way over priced.
RyanBoles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #18
Mr. iNCREDIBLE


 
Mr. iNCREDIBLE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Convertible
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: SoCal Baby...
Posts: 2,296
Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanBoles View Post
My 2 cents for what its worth...just buy two borla mufflers of your choice and have a decent muffler shop replace the factory cans. I did this but used flowmaster it only cost around 150$ mufflers included. Save your money the axle back is way over priced.
Bingo...
Mr. iNCREDIBLE is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
atak, borla, camaro, exhaust, l99

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Borla ATAK (11788) installed with pics. WoW! Video sound don't do it justice! jcchevy Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 25 04-02-2013 01:03 PM
Borla ATAK vs S Type (Cat Backs ) Edlocs Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 5 07-25-2010 09:50 PM
Borla ATAK?? Dimitry@FairwayChevrolet Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 7 07-14-2010 11:40 PM
Borla ATAK question zerox Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 5 06-26-2010 09:57 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.