Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Dynomax
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Camaro Price | Ordering | Tracking | Dealers Discussions

Camaro Price | Ordering | Tracking | Dealers Discussions Discuss pricing and ordering experiences.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-08-2009, 03:22 PM   #1
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,461
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
Angry **UPDATE** Added accessories against my will!!!

Okay here is my delima.

I ordered my ABM Camaro from my semi local "at MSRP" dealer back in March. Since then they have sold a few Camaro's at MSRP but have added things like tinted windows and paint sealant, clear bra etc... to get more money out of the car, rather than charging more than MSRP... which basically is the same thing if you ask me. Now I planned on getting some in fact most of the things they are offering, and from them even, with the exception of tinted windows, I can get the back three done for $175 they are asking $699... But other things I'd just asume have them do. I am on the fence about having stripes painted on the vehicle, so paint sealant is worthless to me. I was told I could have it done after I get the stripes... but that may be a year down the road, I don't know for sure. The fact is I am just trying to get the car, if they add all this extra stuff I don't want or at least need right now then what? Thats a bunch of wasted money and material. In all the extras will run approx. $4,000, that's an extra $4,000 I don't have at the moment, as it is I need to pay the negative equity off my FJ in order to not be upside down on it incase I have to trade it if I can't sell it private party.

So here is my delima, I am told this is from the top down... I don't blame my sales guy at all, he has been great to this point and continues to be, but the powers that be are forcing this on the sales team... so I plan to talk to the sales manager and see if I can make any head way... if not, I guess I am prepared to cancel my order and order from some one else... again as I have said before I'd take a plane to go pick up my car if I had to just to drive it home... esspecially if I didn't have to pay extra for stuff I don't want or need at the moment. I don't want to have to cancel my order I would rather honor the original deal and have a good working relationship with my dealer... I could just have them add the stuff but thats more than I think I should pay for some items like window tinting. the others are what they are... like the car cover etc...

Help me out guys what do you think I should do?
__________________

Last edited by SummoneR; 06-25-2009 at 02:19 AM.
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:23 PM   #2
JJ2010

 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Smithfield,NC
Posts: 1,205
That is not cool......
JJ2010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:24 PM   #3
zq8colorado04
 
zq8colorado04's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Panama City Beach, Florida
Posts: 262
Paint sealant is wax...ripoff and pure profit for a dealership...
__________________
1100: 10/13/08
3000: 03/26/09
3300: 05/08/09
3400: 05/12/09
3800: 05/25/09
4200: 05/28/09
5000: 06/9/09
6000: 06/09/09
VIN# A9111943

2SS/RS Black on Black with LS3 and a 6-speed Manual
zq8colorado04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:26 PM   #4
SSOOCH
"El Dictator"
 
SSOOCH's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 HHR SS, 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Jordan, UT
Posts: 7,421
If you didn't order it, you didn't order it. I don't see the problem. Tell the dealer you're not paying for it. They did something to your car without authorization. It was your car right, you ordered it and put a deposit down?
__________________
SSOOCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:26 PM   #5
UCF w00t
Geek
 
UCF w00t's Avatar
 
Drives: IOM 2010 Camaro 2SS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Orlando
Posts: 4,456
Do you have the printed, signed order? If so, show them that none of those were part of your order and you do not want them. Take it to the top. Refuse. This is basically a markup without the word markup.
UCF w00t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:29 PM   #6
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,461
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
It's on order, It has not been pulled yet, but very soon!

UCF wOOt I do have a printed order sheet. Everyone I talked to agrees with you, I don't understand how they can just say oh you ordered this but before we give it to you we need to add all this extra stuff... WHAT? F U!!
__________________
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:31 PM   #7
rolnslo
Rolling along...
 
rolnslo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,321
Is your car at the dealership already or is this crap stuff that they plan to do when it arrives?

If it's not here yet, get a hold of the General Manager or Owner (not the Sales Manager) and tell him you ordered the car to your specifications for a reason and that you will refuse to purchase the car when it arrives if they attempt to add these additional items to the car and the purchase price. Tell him that you want his agreement, in writing, that none of these items will be added and that the deal for GM's MSRP is what you agreed to, not the marked-up dealer-added options price.

If he refuses, tell him that you will report it to the BBB, all 2010 Camaro related websites, and the local media, in addition to GM. There is absolutely no reason for adding all of that marked-up stuff to a sold order. Maybe for a lot car, yes, but for a car that was ordered specifically for one person, no.
__________________

#1: 2010 1LT/RS Victory Red M6 - July 2009-Oct 2011 (SOLD). #2: 2011 2SS/RS Synergy Green A6 - Oct 2011.....
rolnslo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #8
fixxer56
Thin Blue Line
 
fixxer56's Avatar
 
Drives: ABM 2LT/RS #10094
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SE Pa
Posts: 1,386
Send a message via AIM to fixxer56
Quote:
Originally Posted by zq8colorado04 View Post
Paint sealant is wax...ripoff and pure profit for a dealership...
I asked a friend who was a former Chevy mechanic and agreed with this is just a wax done for profit. Dealer said,"Originally $750, I can get it for $550". I told him if it wasn't GM product, I did not want it.
__________________
One of the "Few Blue"
fixxer56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:33 PM   #9
joerod97
Chevy Man
 
Drives: 2010 2ss -black/black
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Folsom,ca
Posts: 434
Sounds like John l Sulivan chevy at work,right?
joerod97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:34 PM   #10
Lucas718
 
Drives: Jeep Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 55
That's shady. Don't accept it. You ordered the car the way you did for a reason and that reason was not to have a bunch of crap added that you don't want or need.

Think of it this way: If you go to a restaurant and order a meal and they bring you something similar to what you ordered but more expensive and they charge you the higher price, are you going to accept it or send it back?
Lucas718 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:37 PM   #11
Andro
NOICE!!! ™
 
Andro's Avatar
 
Drives: Force Fed 427
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: GOT BOOST?
Posts: 5,221
Man! What a ripoff
__________________
Andro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:37 PM   #12
Kvapil28
 
Kvapil28's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 453
Our Simoniz Glass Coat here is $399 inside and out so I would say $600 is nuts. They didn't tell you about this stuff when you agreed to order the car??
Kvapil28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:43 PM   #13
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,461
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
Quote:
Originally Posted by joerod97 View Post
Sounds like John l Sulivan chevy at work,right?
Yup... After John himself comes out and tells everyone thanks for supporting us blah blah were excited about this too blah blah oh hey guess what we sell at MSRP but we add a bunch of crap... oh wait he didn't say that in a public forum... but I just did...
Yesh I think I will try with the top dogs if that gets me no where, then I'll go else where... It jsut pisses me off to no end... my blood is boiling over here.
__________________
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:43 PM   #14
dayvedayve
 
Drives: 2006 Chevy Avalanche
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Gulf Coast of Texas
Posts: 388
Check with your states Attorney General. Forcing dealer add-ons might be illegal in your state. Usually you get that crap in the financind dept. Requiring things like GAP, credit life, extended warranties, etc... Very questional sales ethics.
dayvedayve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:48 PM   #15
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,461
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kvapil28 View Post
Our Simoniz Glass Coat here is $399 inside and out so I would say $600 is nuts. They didn't tell you about this stuff when you agreed to order the car??
Nope it was not mentioned to me at all. It was not until I heard others in here mention it and I was like "they wouldn't do that to a sold order would they?" so I asked my sales guy and he checked on it, sure enough...
__________________

Last edited by SummoneR; 06-08-2009 at 09:50 PM.
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:55 PM   #16
camaro5


 
camaro5's Avatar
 
Drives: Off Into The Sunset
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cape Coral, Florida
Posts: 4,430
Talk to

1. Sales Manager

2. General Manager. Tell the dealer general manager you're going to contact your state attorney general's office, and all news media.

3. Owner/president

4. Tell them Camaro5 will not be happy about this, we do have power.

5. Post the resolution.
camaro5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:56 PM   #17
2010SSRS

 
2010SSRS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2000 Silverado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 1,246
i wouldn't do shit. if you haven't been pulled yet you're 7-9 weeks out at a minimum. a lot's gonna change between now and then. there will be Camaro's in stock by then, and this over charging that dealers are doing should be about over.

check out ebay.........fewer and fewer bids are going over MSRP. we have a dealer just over the border in IL that's had a 2SS at $5k over MSRP for 3 weeks now and can't get rid of it.

otherwise, if you don't wanna wait..............i'd go talk to the manager and tell him what you plan on having the dealership do and have them add it to the MSRP, get the final price and get it signed in writing.

if you get some things from him, he should be okay with that rather than gamble on supply catching demand in a couple months when ur car comes in.
__________________
IOM 2SSRS LS3 R6P - VIN 7553 Delivered 5/22/2009 Kooks, Corsa and Roto-Fab - SOLD 9/2010

VR 2SSRS LS3 - Borla, SLP CAI
2010SSRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:56 PM   #18
GothamCamaro
Then you're gonna love me
 
GothamCamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black Camaro Tumbler RS
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NW Gotham, IL
Posts: 1,599


They can just add things at will to your order!
__________________
Own- "Does it come in Black?" Exterior/ Grey Interior 2LT/RS Automatic
_____________________________________
The Batman would only drive a 2010 Camaro and buy from Camaro Scotty. 'Nuff said.

Anyone that knows of a place that is making the Concept Shifter for the new Camaro. (Auto specifically) Please let me know.

Order# NDTMVP Ordered 10/23/08.
2000 on 5/21/09... It begins.....
4B00 on 6/26/09... In transit to the Cave
5000 on 7/6/09 it waits for my arrival!
1000000 on 7/10/09 The Tumbler is in the Cave!
GothamCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 03:57 PM   #19
Number 3
Hail to the King baby!
 
Number 3's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 ATS 2.0T & '13 Audi S4
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 7,803
Quote:
Originally Posted by SummoneR View Post
Yup... After John himself comes out and tells everyone thanks for supporting us blah blah were excited about this too blah blah oh hey guess what we sell at MSRP but we add a bunch of crap... oh wait he didn't say that in a public forum... but I just did...
Yesh I think I will try with the top dogs if that gets me no where, then I'll go else where... It jsut pisses me off to no end... my blood is boiling over here.
SummoneR, I love that car in your sig. Love it!!!

And to the OP, I hope you had an agreement in writing. I'd stand my ground. That is a practice some dealers pull with hot sellers to get more profit on the unit. It happened on the Solstice/Sky launch. "Oh, we don't charge over MSRP, but to get this car you will pay for $1,500 for the custom pin stripes and other %^&*()" No wait they wouldn't say, "#$%^&*(". They would say, "additional features".
__________________
"Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Link to Every Camaro photo I've taken in Hi-Resolution
Number 3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:01 PM   #20
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,461
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
Quote:
Originally Posted by camaro5 View Post
Talk to

1. Sales Manager

2. General Manager. Tell the dealer general manager you're going to contact your state attorney general's office, and all news media.

3. Owner/president

4. Tell them Camaro5 will not be happy about this, we do have power.

5. Post the resolution.
definetly will do!
__________________
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:03 PM   #21
CamaroScotty
Account Suspended
 
Drives: Your new SLP Camaro!
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cedarburg, WI
Posts: 6,806
Send a message via Yahoo to CamaroScotty
I'd go to the nearest chevy dealer and tell them - maybe they'd give you the district manager's phone #
CamaroScotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:11 PM   #22
jking
 
Drives: Hyundai Sonata
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 34
Yeah, it's BS! How can a dealer just add things on without talking to the car owner first? Um, isn't that illegal? I know we're in a bad economy, but this is getting nuts!!

You mentioned 4K worth of extras. What are they going to do that adds up to 4K?? If it were me, and they offered some of this stuff to me, I might go for the clear bra, but that would be it. The first thing I'd do when I got it home is wax it myself, so I would stay away from the clearcoat.
jking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:15 PM   #23
Vash


 
Drives: 00 Blazer
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,128
They should not add a thing without permission. Not even the dealer sticker to the rear.
Vash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:15 PM   #24
CWI
Helping Build America
 
CWI's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,LS3 2013 Duramax 3500HD
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Nationwide
Posts: 3,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2010SSRS View Post
.

check out ebay.........fewer and fewer bids are going over MSRP. we have a dealer just over the border in IL that's had a 2SS at $5k over MSRP for 3 weeks now and can't get rid of it.
.
My dealer has a 2LT, $30K sticker. Asking $35K, its' been there for a while.
With the economy where it is, there just aren't a lot of people going to pay the "dealer tax". (mark up)

As for the OP, if it were me and I was there and they were trying to do this with me, I would go to the top at that dealer and tell them what I will pay for and what I won't pay for,(unwanted add ons). If they isist, then they just lost a sale. There are other dealers with allocations still. If it cost me a $1000 extra to go somewhere else and drive my new car home, then I would rather do that then get ripped off by a bad dealer.

Let us know how it comes out. There are members that read and post here that work for GM. Bust the bad dealers. The New GM don't need them.
__________________
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!"
CWI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2009, 04:18 PM   #25
AGM76
 
Drives: 1995 z28 - 2000 SS - 08' vette
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
Posts: 113
This is why I have bought my cars out of state lately. When others were selling their z06's for 10k off, that dealer was still trying to get 10k over from me.
AGM76 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GM CAMARO ACCESSORIES PART #'s HOTRIDES1 Cosmetics and Lighting Modification Discussions 109 04-08-2014 09:18 AM
Some accessories can be listed on your window sticker. jjy59 Camaro Price | Ordering | Tracking | Dealers Discussions 12 03-23-2009 10:33 AM
Camaro performance parts & exterior/interior accessories details from Indy! 13F20 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 210 11-21-2008 03:50 PM
Camaro Accessories from SEMA FenwickHockey65 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 1 11-03-2008 02:25 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.