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Old 10-20-2012, 03:20 PM   #1
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1LE comes with oil catch can?!?

I was catch can researching ever since I saw SUXOST order that white RX catch can and noticed that slick rick brough this up in another thread?

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=catch

Then, I looked at MT's pictures of the white 1LE and look at that oil cap, it is day and night different from the regular SS's that I can see pictures off.

Does anyone with a 2013 Camaro SS have this oil cap/can as well or is this something 1LE specific?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_test/photos/
How is the RX can going to work with the 1LE set up being different like this?
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:27 PM   #2
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Camaro 1LE PCV Oil Separator Kit

The increased handling performance of the 2013 Camaro with the 1LE performance package can generate some off-road or track conditions where engine oil can be ingested into the air cleaner through the fresh air tube that connects the port within the right valve cover to the air cleaner. The Chevrolet Performance Positive Crankcase Vent (PCV) oil separator kit can improve this condition. It’s a standard part of the 1LE performance package.

The kit (part number 12653073) is included with other packaged components in the vehicle. It should not be installed during PDI at the dealership. The kit and instructions should be kept in the car. Owners are responsible for installing the oil separator in the car for track use.

The kit is designed for off-road or track use only. The production PCV system should be installed back on the vehicle when driving on public roads.

The kit is not designed for winter driving conditions (ambient temperature should be above 32° F, 0°C).

Kit Contents

The PCV oil separator kit includes:
• Main housing (Fig. 7, A)
• PCV cap/plug (Fig. 7, B)
• Connecting tube (Fig. 7, C)
• Instruction sheet



Fig 7

The kit instructions cover how to remove the PCV tube that features quick connect fittings (Fig. 8), installing the PCV cap/plug over the valve cover PCV port, and installing the PCV main housing in the oil fill neck in the valve cover. (Fig. 9)



Fig 8



Fig 9

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Old 10-20-2012, 03:51 PM   #3
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Thank you for that, never knew that. I am confused now, this kit is "standard" on the 1LE but you are supposed to take it off on public roads and only use it for track use?

How is this different from what is on the standard SS's? Also, any idea what is inside that main housing?
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:22 PM   #4
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"The kit (part number 12653073) is included with other packaged components in the vehicle. It should not be installed during PDI at the dealership. The kit and instructions should be kept in the car. Owners are responsible for installing the oil separator in the car for track use."

^^^Besides that, I'll be adding a TVS and aftermarket intake so a non-issue for me at least.
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:30 PM   #5
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OK, so it sounds like it will be in the glove box for us to use when we go racing, I am really curious now how it works and if catch can's are even necessary anymore?

I still like the catch idea but man this is pretty awesome if you don't want to deal with maintance with the aftermarket catch cans.
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:36 PM   #6
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This will be our spring spacers. There will be dealers, not mine, that will install these or forget to put them in the car.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:57 PM   #7
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is there any benefit for installing for street use?
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:46 PM   #8
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Well, probably same benefit as on the track, if u drive the car hard on the street. I dont see what it could hurt since it still vents to the intake instead of ambient.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:25 PM   #9
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:01 PM   #10
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Thank you guys for the post. My dealer just installed it on mine. But with winter coming up up I will put the original on.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:06 PM   #11
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This is mine installed 1ss 1 le
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:59 AM   #12
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That is a clean side separator....great that GM did this, but the clean side is only 3-5% of the oil ingestion, 95% plus is from the dirty side so no factory solution for that.

The ZL1/LR1/CTS-V all come with a clean side separator now as well.


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Old 11-09-2012, 12:31 PM   #13
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I think it was discussed in more detail in another thread. I went ahead and ordered a catch can, it'll probably be the first thing I install after delivery, then skip shift eliminator
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:13 PM   #14
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I was catch can researching ever since I saw SUXOST order that white RX catch can and noticed that slick rick brough this up in another thread?

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=catch

Then, I looked at MT's pictures of the white 1LE and look at that oil cap, it is day and night different from the regular SS's that I can see pictures off.

Does anyone with a 2013 Camaro SS have this oil cap/can as well or is this something 1LE specific?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_test/photos/
How is the RX can going to work with the 1LE set up being different like this?
I need to know if anyone who has been lucky enough the get their 1LE, if it really came with the catch can? i printed this info and took it to my dealer,and they knew nothing about it.They are going to find out Mon,but i have my RX for sale on here,and if it doesn't have the catch can, then i need to keep mine.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:17 PM   #15
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It was on my car when I picked it up 6 November
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:29 PM   #16
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Thank you,was it ON you're car or in it?
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I need to know if anyone who has been lucky enough the get their 1LE, if it really came with the catch can? i printed this info and took it to my dealer,and they knew nothing about it.They are going to find out Mon,but i have my RX for sale on here,and if it doesn't have the catch can, then i need to keep mine.

It is important to understand this ONLY addresses the clean side, which is responsible for at best 2-4% of the oil ingestion into the intake air charge and that only occurs at WOT.

Props to GM for this addition, but 95% plus of the oil ingestion comes from the dirty side and this has zero effect on it. This does eliminate the need for the REX breather kit as this works very well. Just like the ZL1/ZR1/CTS-V that has a smaller version mounted to the main airbridge.

Its a small step, but at least it is a step.

Oh, and dont expect many, if any dealers to understand this....they will just scratch their heads with that Duh look.
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It is important to understand this ONLY addresses the clean side, which is responsible for at best 2-4% of the oil ingestion into the intake air charge and that only occurs at WOT.

Props to GM for this addition, but 95% plus of the oil ingestion comes from the dirty side and this has zero effect on it. This does eliminate the need for the REX breather kit as this works very well. Just like the ZL1/ZR1/CTS-V that has a smaller version mounted to the main airbridge.

Its a small step, but at least it is a step.

Oh, and dont expect many, if any dealers to understand this....they will just scratch their heads with that Duh look.
So then i should keep my catch can?
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:30 PM   #19
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I am running both, GM separator and rx catch can.
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I am running both, GM separator and rx catch can.
Thank you for the info,i think i should do the same.Time to go to PM and let a couple down :(
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:45 PM   #21
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My new 1LE came with the kit in the trunk. The dealer had no idea what it was. I am interested in adding a catch can if it still needs one.
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:05 PM   #22
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I never believed in the catch cans but my last car was dripping oil from the intake and throttle. I figured hey, small investment on my new car.

However, I must say, installing the GM separator vs. the RX can definitely makes you appreciate OEM parts. I am still mind boggled why the after market hasn't caught up with quick connects on stuff like catch cans.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:45 PM   #23
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I never believed in the catch cans but my last car was dripping oil from the intake and throttle. I figured hey, small investment on my new car.

However, I must say, installing the GM separator vs. the RX can definitely makes you appreciate OEM parts. I am still mind boggled why the after market hasn't caught up with quick connects on stuff like catch cans.
Have you yet catch some dirty and clean Oil?
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:07 AM   #24
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Trying to compare apples to apple this item would be like getting the Oil Breather from RX. So it is not a Catch Can in traditional thoughts. I am debating between RX Air Breather or this.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:15 AM   #25
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Hmm now I need to see if my vehicle already has it installed. I didn't have anything in the trunk when I purchased it 2 days ago.

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