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Old 10-19-2012, 11:48 PM   #201
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...time will tell...stay thirsty my friend. Camaro VS Mustang....a rivalry that's been ongoing for many a decade.....too long for Chevy to say "no mas"....
I doubt Chevy will say no mas but Camaro will be second to the Vette. Mustang doesn't have that problem. The 70 Chevelle is my favorite car but the Camaro has always been my second favorite car. I'd love to see it be the priority and have the best engine GM can develop but that hasn't been the case for a long time.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:10 AM   #202
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I guess the corvette isn't aiming at super cars, and camaro isn't aiming at those. so what lines will be crossed if the camaro has just as much or slightly more power then the vette? on top of the fact the camaro weights more and handles worse, has worse aerodynamics. There is no way the top of the line camaro would ever out perform the top of the line vette.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:11 AM   #203
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I guess the corvette isn't aiming at super cars, and camaro isn't aiming at those. so what lines will be crossed if the camaro has just as much or slightly more power then the vette? on top of the fact the camaro weights more and handles worse, has worse aerodynamics. There is no way the top of the line camaro would ever out perform the top of the line vette.
I get that the Camaro weighs more than the Corvette but when has a regular production Camaro put out more HP than the top of the line Corvette? The Vette, even when using the same engines, is always rated with more HP than the Camaro.
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....dude, get into the twenty first century and buy a late model Camaro and get on board with reality....constant negative criticism goes over like a lead baloon here. Perhaps the sullen tone is best suited for the Mustang boards compadre'...just sayin...
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:46 AM   #205
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My belief is that GM has something special planned for the Z, and further stretching, it will have an engine that suprises us all and will not be a hand-me-down from the corvette.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:45 PM   #206
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Future GM engines should get more clear once they unveil the Gen V small block tomorrow morning. Although performance applications may not be unveiled until the C7 is at NAIAS on 1/13/13.
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Can someone please hand me down a LS9?
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:54 PM   #208
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Can someone please hand me down a LS9?
Maybe one will fall off a truck...
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:53 AM   #209
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Well the LT1 6.2 is rated at 450 HP. Is that good enough for a Z/28?
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #211
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Well the LT1 6.2 is rated at 450 HP. Is that good enough for a Z/28?
Lighter-weight Gen-6? Yes.

Current Gen-5, with its extra torque? It's certainly more capable than an LS3......more IS better.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:31 PM   #212
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:42 PM   #213
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Well that's what it is, probably less for the Camaro version, so I guess we shall see what the decision is.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:44 PM   #214
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Lighter-weight Gen-6? Yes.

Current Gen-5, with its extra torque? It's certainly more capable than an LS3......more IS better.
So any hope of a gen 5 Z is still a LS7 powered car.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:34 PM   #215
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Philisophically: Where would we be as a people/nation/civilization without hope? And the belief that damn near anything is possible?

Gen-5 ZEE with LS7? Sure, there's hope...because all the components exist.

1SS-1LE + ZL1 Brakes/Diff are already housed in Oshawa. RamAir/Extractor Hood + LS7 are a phone call away...

Will enough people shell out $49.9 for one? That, my friends, is the question...

However..."1-800-BUILD01...Operators are standing by..." Maybe it's time for another Survey.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:20 PM   #216
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In that case, I'd rather have the LT1 in it, I just can't cough up that kinda coin for a Z after tax, tag..the cam specs on it seem pretty weak, seems like there is room for improvement in that aspect
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...it will be if the Camaro is scaled down, weighs less, uses new space age materials and manufacturing process thats increases strength and stability. Power to weight ratio. Base line motors right now not knowing the final specs of the car are nothng to speculate about. We are only seeing the tip of the ice berg. It could be bigger than we think....
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:21 PM   #218
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Well the LT1 6.2 is rated at 450 HP. Is that good enough for a Z/28?
The numbers are not offical. If this new LT1 is good enough for the C7 it will be more than enough for a Z/28, Camaro or any other GM performance car.

GM also announced today that there will be no further research on on the LS series of engines. Not really unexpected.

Perhaps even more than the mighty and loved LS7, once the official specs are unveiled, the LT1 is the engine you'll want in any Camaro.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:34 PM   #219
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The numbers are not offical. If this new LT1 is good enough for the C7 it will be more than enough for a Z/28, Camaro or any other GM performance car.

GM also announced today that there will be no further research on on the LS series of engines. Not really unexpected.

Perhaps even more than the mighty and loved LS7, once the official specs are unveiled, the LT1 is the engine you'll want in any Camaro.
I thought those number were official? They were announced today. Even so, the LT1 is probably the base Vette motor, like the LS3. The high performance motors will come later.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:05 PM   #220
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I thought those number were official? They were announced today. Even so, the LT1 is probably the base Vette motor, like the LS3. The high performance motors will come later.
The numbers are estimated and won't be finalized until the C7's debut at NAIAS on 1/13/13. Like with everything C7 related it's a sneak peak.

I wouldn't be quick to write off this engine because it powers the base Corvette. Higher performance Gen V's will follow but this new LT1 is a substantial upgrade from the LS3.
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The numbers are estimated and won't be finalized until the C7's debut at NAIAS on 1/13/13. Like with everything C7 related it's a sneak peak.

I wouldn't be quick to write off this engine because it powers the base Corvette. Higher performance Gen V's will follow but this new LT1 is a substantial upgrade from the LS3.
With as much as 50+ lb-ft additional mid-range torque output, friends, this is very significant...for the Vette as well as for the heavier 4-seat Camaros.

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Old 10-25-2012, 09:35 AM   #222
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Just put a dry sump LT-1 in the thing and be done with it. Focus the rest of the attention on putting the parts bin pieces together. A unique hood with some new aero advancements will keep us happy.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:33 PM   #223
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...on another front, for the Z/28....it makes me curious to see the newly announced HW production Camaro is without the hood and wheels as debuted last year. Perhaps they will be issued on the....
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...on another front, for the Z/28....it makes me curious to see the newly announced HW production Camaro is without the hood and wheels as debuted last year. Perhaps they will be issued on the....
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Say what???
...you know you want that hood on the Z/28......
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