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Old 11-10-2012, 05:03 PM   #18
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okay, I want to install HID head lights on my 1Ls, but it is strongly recomended to disable all automatic headlights before doing this because they say the battery alone is not strong enough to start up the lights and that you should have the engine running. I;m getting this from here

http://www.philipshidkits.com/installation/

so if I do this spring mod will the headlights still come on when I exit the car like they do now?

I bought a cheapo Xentec set of BiXenon lights and had nothing but problems with them, now I'm looking into getting some good panasonic Bixenon ones. has anyone else done this?? what advice can you give me?
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:22 PM   #19
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Panasonic doesn't make his stuff. It's fake using their name. Go to TRS and get real HiD stuff. Don't just put an HID kit in your headlights. That's what Honda owners do. Do a retrofit. If you can't afford it you can't afford HIDs.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:23 PM   #20
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Panasonic doesn't make his stuff. It's fake using their name. Go to TRS and get real HiD stuff. Don't just put an HID kit in your headlights. That's what Honda owners do. Do a retrofit. If you can't afford it you can't afford HIDs. If you do that your headlights will work just like stock. And that switch mod won't work for you.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:06 PM   #21
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Panasonic doesn't make his stuff. It's fake using their name. Go to TRS and get real HiD stuff. Don't just put an HID kit in your headlights. That's what Honda owners do. Do a retrofit. If you can't afford it you can't afford HIDs. If you do that your headlights will work just like stock. And that switch mod won't work for you.
yes, panasonic does make Hid's, they make them for toyota & lexus, and and they even sell them on the website you listed. I'm not spending a $1000 I dont have on projectors because there's no reason to, plus i hate they way they look anyway.

I just dont want to spend $250 for a good kit and then have problems with them. Does this spring switch mod disable the headlights turning on for the vechicle exit and entry too?
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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yes, panasonic does make Hid's, they make them for toyota & lexus, and and they even sell them on the website you listed. I'm not spending a $1000 I dont have on projectors because there's no reason to, plus i hate they way they look anyway.

I just dont want to spend $250 for a good kit and then have problems with them. Does this spring switch mod disable the headlights turning on for the vechicle exit and entry too?
270 bucks for a full retrofit. Or you can be a dick and blind everyone on the road and ruin your light output and have to hack up your car to get them to work. And they will be illegal as well. You hate how projectors look?? Seriously?? Obviously you didn't look at that website. Because even a ls460 retrofit would be around 700. And you don't get better than that. And denso makes ballasts for Toyota and Lexus. Not Panasonic. Do some more research.

Also there is a huge reason to have projectors. You need them when you put aftermarket HID in a car.

And yea. The spring mod will stop the headlights from turning on until you use the switch to turn them on.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:41 PM   #23
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I just did this, the mechanism is pretty complex but I got it figured out, took about 20 minutes to figure it all out, It appears that this all completely disabled all automatic lights including DRL's and the entry & exit lights which is what i need for HID's. and the headlights dont even flash when I lock the car so it's perfect. I took pictures inside the switch, I will post them up tonight when I have time with more of an explanation of how to do it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:03 PM   #24
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I guess my question would be WHY?

personally I think all vehicles should come with auto headlights, far to often I see retards driving around in the dead of night with no lights on because they are clueless idiots.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:53 PM   #25
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I just did this, the mechanism is pretty complex but I got it figured out, took about 20 minutes to figure it all out, It appears that this all completely disabled all automatic lights including DRL's and the entry & exit lights which is what i need for HID's. and the headlights dont even flash when I lock the car so it's perfect. I took pictures inside the switch, I will post them up tonight when I have time with more of an explanation of how to do it.
Even though a quality set of HIDs would have worked without doing any of this?? Lol. Stop buying cheap junk and stop being lazy and you won't have issues.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:55 PM   #26
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I guess my question would be WHY?
Because people want to bypass safety features of their cars or don't want to do stuff the right way. I don't get it either. I can get rid of DRL or move them on even a Canadian camaro in about 15 minutes with less than 15 bucks in parts.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:16 PM   #27
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guess my question would be WHY?

personally I think all vehicles should come with auto headlights, far to often I see retards driving around in the dead of night with no lights on because they are clueless idiots

I agree - Too many morons drive in the dark with the DRLs on!
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #28
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I noticed that if you turn the switch to the auto posistion it's still turning on the automatic lights. Also if you have the lights on and turn them to the off posistion the parking lights stay on and the warning chime sound even when you exit the car and lock the doors, you have to cycle the switch back to the auto posistion and back off again to get the parking lights to turn off.


For anyone wondering what's inside the switch, first of all the knob comes off when you remove the back. There are 4 tabs that align to orientate the knob on the switch. there is a dot on the knob that indicates it's posistion, this should line up with the automatic mode as it was when you started. The spring is the coiled steel piece around the knob. I only cut the last 1/4" off, I probably should have cut more of the spring off, I tried removing the whole thing in 1 piece but it wouldnt come off.




Then this light piece may fall of on you like it did me, it took a few minutes to figure out how it went back on

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Old 11-11-2012, 06:15 PM   #29
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Even though a quality set of HIDs would have worked without doing any of this?? Lol. Stop buying cheap junk and stop being lazy and you won't have issues.

well I was reading from this website that sales OEM HID kits and they say you should disable automatic headlights before installing an HID kit, so that's what I'm doing before laying down $280 on a OEM HID kit.

This may be why I had problems from the cheap Xentec kit which I took off weeks ago.

http://www.philipshidkits.com/installation/

this is from the above website

Problem: - In many cases, especially for those cars that have Auto "ON" or Daytime Running Lights; one or both lights cannot Ignite Initially, Discharge Bulb turns off just after start of the car, or even sometimes, bulb just turns off when driving.
  • Damage:
    Fried ballast, internally damage or burn the discharge bulb Gas Capsule.
  • Solution:
    You MUST Disconnect the Daytime Running Light or Auto Switch ON function immediately before the actual HID Conversion. Due to the Steady levels of battery voltage at 12V the battery doesn't have enough power to switch on the "Auto On" feature which uses 7V and the HID system which requires 12V at the same time.
    • if you have Daytime Running Light please follow your car s service manual; disconnect the fuse or wiring of Daytime Running lights only.
    • If you have Auto Switch On Headlights, please switch the function to Manual Switch On headlights. To avoid further damages, always remember to start your engine before turn on the HID system!

If you can tell me otherwise I'd like to hear about it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:01 PM   #30
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Well first of all that is not OEM HID stuff. Its cheap knockoff crap. Just because it says philips on it doesnt mean its any good. Philips never made a bulb type other than OEM style. No rebases so it screams knock off. You can get the same stuff for 25 on eBay. I've done HID on a camaro many times. Get a quality kit from TRS like I told you before and it will work just like stock. No need to mess around or hack up the car. It's 270 bucks for an entire kit!!! Including projectors. It's very easy to type in a website. Idk why you haven't yet. You need the full kit with moritomo standalone canbus harness. Hook everything up with a new light switch you didn't break and it will work just like stock. No bulb out warnings and a very quick startup and no need for wiring everywhere.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #31
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yeah, now I regret doing this switch mod, the automatic healights turn on when you turn them off anyway, it confuses the computer and the parking lights are still on when you leave the car, i have to cycle the switch again just to get the parking lights to turn off and then the headlights flash again anyway as it passes over the auto setting. I'm going to try to work with it some more but I'll probably end up buying another switch, hopefully it wont be too expensive.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:48 PM   #32
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If you get another switch and spend 270 bucks at TRS you won't have any issues. Ad you will have OEM quality projector headlights. And no bulb out warnings and the car will turn them off if you leave them on.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:23 PM   #33
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okay, I played with it more, still doing the same thing, Luckiliy I was able to get a new switch off ebay for only $25 so now I feel better.


So does everyone agree the TRS HID's are good to get?? I did some web searching and coudn't really find anything bad said about them. It's just unreal how much fake crap is out there, everything on ebay looks like junk. I've never seen anything counterfeited this bad, it's worse that counterfeit gold coins or rolex watches.

Is this a good one?

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=12825

I plan on just getting the 35watt just because they are more reliable. Right? is that the thinking? why not just get the 50 watt?

thanks for the help.

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Old 11-13-2012, 07:07 AM   #34
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That's kinda what you need. You need to do a retrofit though. Your car will look cool but your lighting will be crap because you have a base model. Your headlights where not designed for HID. There will be light thrown everywhere including in the eyes of all the other drivers on the road. You will be that asswhole blinding everyone else. And the light on the road will be even with stock or maybe worse. But you will look cool. Lol
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