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Old 11-12-2012, 09:18 PM   #15
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To up above with the 427 Vette convert. The 427 vert is a great car but it is not a ZO6. Starting with no aluminum frame like a real Z and 7-8 other things. But I am nit picking. Ive had a couple zs and they are lighter and a little faster and handle better than the vert. I think the 427 vert is a great car and for GM a good money maker but in my mind not close to what a ZO6 is about. OK flame away. I going back to the Z so what ever>
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:32 AM   #16
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Practicality. I don't want to choose which one of my sons gets to ride in the cool car with daddy I want them both to be there!
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:34 AM   #17
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I've posted up this picture for about 17 different threads already for different reasons but here is another one

Me personally, I don't have kids, not married but I'm living with the gf. She doesn't want kids. I don't want kids. We both have our own daily drivers, but then we also have our fun cars:

2010 Camaro SS and 2013 Corvette 427 aka convertible special edition Z06.

For my situation, I would always choose the Z06 over the 1LE. My preference is experience with both the Camaro and the Vette. Granted the 1LE is an improvement over the 2SS, the Vette just has that more "me" factor.

Now if my scenario was changed, and I had kids or possible not having the Vette as a play car and needed the choice as a daily, then yes, the 1LE would be the choice.

But when you put them side by side, it screams madness and pure evil

[That's what i'm talking about! Vetts and camaros look good together!
Those are bad-ass. You definitely made the right decision. That Vette is amazing.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:16 AM   #18
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:08 PM   #19
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Some problems with the LS7 engines, check Corvette forum. I still love the ZO6 though. the light weight makes it sweet. Like both our Camaros. I think we need more NA power or lighter car.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:48 PM   #20
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At 6' 5" I have a hell of a time getting in/out and just sitting in my neighbors C6 Z06. I actually fit better in a C5 than a C6. The Camaro has way more room for me. I also have kids which is another + for Camaro but even without kids I would still have the Camaro over the Vette. It's just more my type of car. I've always been a Camaro guy and have owned my '69 since I was 16 yrs old.

I will say my neighbors bone stock C6 Z06 feels way faster than my modded Camaro. However, I will also say that I have a friend with a C5 Z06 and I beat him by a 1 second average the last time we went Auto-X together.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #21
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Some problems with the LS7 engines, check Corvette forum. I still love the ZO6 though. the light weight makes it sweet. Like both our Camaros. I think we need more NA power or lighter car.
Been a member on corvette forum since 01 and the valve problem is a little blown out of proportion after talking to the c6z owners. Like most internet stuff you always hear when stuff goes wrong as there is no reason to post when stuff goes right. I'm leaning towards thew vette at the moment as I really miss mine. I am waiting til I get to be behind the wheel of the 1le before final judgement. What ever I get its gonna get the full intake, heads, cam, exhaust treatment.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:28 AM   #22
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At 6' 5" I have a hell of a time getting in/out and just sitting in my neighbors C6 Z06. I actually fit better in a C5 than a C6. The Camaro has way more room for me. I also have kids which is another + for Camaro but even without kids I would still have the Camaro over the Vette. It's just more my type of car. I've always been a Camaro guy and have owned my '69 since I was 16 yrs old.

I will say my neighbors bone stock C6 Z06 feels way faster than my modded Camaro. However, I will also say that I have a friend with a C5 Z06 and I beat him by a 1 second average the last time we went Auto-X together.


My neighbor bought a new C6 and sold it after about 3-4 months because he couldn't handle the ride quality (sit basically on the floor, hard to get in and out of, stiff suspension, etc).
It's not for everyone.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:33 AM   #23
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Been a member on corvette forum since 01 and the valve problem is a little blown out of proportion after talking to the c6z owners. Like most internet stuff you always hear when stuff goes wrong as there is no reason to post when stuff goes right. I'm leaning towards thew vette at the moment as I really miss mine. I am waiting til I get to be behind the wheel of the 1le before final judgement. What ever I get its gonna get the full intake, heads, cam, exhaust treatment.
Honestly, in that scenario, you should look for a used and modded Z06. Let someone else pay for all the upgrades. Nothing wrong with a vette.....it's just a Camaro is more in line for some people.

I'll be willing to bet if you're leaning more towards a vette then you probably won't be happy with a 1LE. The power difference alone from a Z06 (especially a modded Z06) is going o be way more than with the 1LE. You would probably have to have both cars at a track scenario to really feel the difference between them. A 10 min drive at the dealer is probably not going to get you and acurate feel for the car.

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:22 PM   #24
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Not really two different markets as both are track cars and about super close on track times. I get the personal preference as on has back seats and the other not so much. I was just wondering the reasons as both are on the plate for me. I have no reason for back seats but loved my cts-v because of the extra room but never found a reason to be mad at my vette for lacking the seats.
You are assuming they will see track time. Most of both models, bought by most people, will never see the track.

In the end, it all boils to what YOU want. For all of the ways that I will use the car, the Camaro is the better choice. Not too mention pricing.

And yes, two different markets. Racing/track use aside, the Camaro is a "muscle car" (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger), the Corvette is a "supercar", normally in the class of performance exotic cars. They aren't typically associated nor compared.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:57 AM   #25
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Attachment 442770 I absolutely love vettes. I will have one if I trade the camaro or not. I honestly love the look of both and the vette does look mean.
I'm sorry but the Vette is one sick looking MOFO. Still debating on trading for one.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:19 PM   #26
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Been a member on corvette forum since 01 and the valve problem is a little blown out of proportion after talking to the c6z owners. Like most internet stuff you always hear when stuff goes wrong as there is no reason to post when stuff goes right. I'm leaning towards thew vette at the moment as I really miss mine. I am waiting til I get to be behind the wheel of the 1le before final judgement. What ever I get its gonna get the full intake, heads, cam, exhaust treatment.
I am a ZO6 owner and at 9,000 miles no problems. A lot of people are having problems and it is not a joke. I am selling my ZO6 and waiting to buy a C7 when they make a comparable car. But I have two 2SSRS 13 Camaros, wife and I, auto and stick, I like both.
I know 2 Z owners that have the valve problem. But they have the warranty to fall back on. The bad thing is you are afraid to modify the car.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:14 AM   #27
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I am a ZO6 owner and at 9,000 miles no problems. A lot of people are having problems and it is not a joke. I am selling my ZO6 and waiting to buy a C7 when they make a comparable car. But I have two 2SSRS 13 Camaros, wife and I, auto and stick, I like both.
I know 2 Z owners that have the valve problem. But they have the warranty to fall back on. The bad thing is you are afraid to modify the car.
I know its a real problem but not as bad as the internet makes it out to be. I have 5 people in my corvette club that not had an issue with their valves. On has 65k and the other around 59k miles. The others are.sub 20k mile cars. If anything it gives you a reason to get the heads reworked and beefed up and while your at it might as well to do a cam etc.

The thing I love about the camaro is its looks, power(as long ss the 1le feels like it has it), and back seat/room. Do I need a back seat now....no I do not..but it is nice to have just incase for storage etc.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:03 AM   #28
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Ok, a bit off topic but want to hear the dumbest reason ever why I choose a Camaro over a Corvette (regardless of model)? Wait for it... Because I am a Transformers Nerd and my kids love Bumblebee. I would have bought a Vette but they don't make a Corevette that looks like Sideswipe yet. I know it sounds stupid but that was the reason. If they hadn't of used a Camaro in the movie, I'd probably be driving a vette. There you have it. GM's Marketing plan (2 hour commercal) worked. Now that I've owned one, I'd buy another one for 100 different reasons but the movie and the fact that was a fan of Transformers were the main reasons.
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