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Old 12-18-2012, 01:25 PM   #1
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did you know..

that if you do not have your key fully extended when you start the car, you will get the theft alert on the DIC and the car won't start?


I usually flip my key back 90° when driving, keeps me from wacking my knee on the house key..

tried to start my car with the key only half open.. can't do it..


didn't realize the key apparently completes the circuit for the RFID (or whatever system GM is using) signal.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:55 PM   #2
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Interesting. Going to try this when I go to lunch today.

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Old 12-18-2012, 02:12 PM   #3
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I guess you learn something new every day. I might have to give it a try and see what happens.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:50 PM   #4
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Yup sure enough it wouldn't turn on.

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Old 12-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #5
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Hmm. So somebody can't just take or somehow copy the key part and steal your ride. Interesting.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:02 PM   #6
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bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:25 PM   #7
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Wow, that's a new one! Still finding 'new' discoveries 4 model years in.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:34 PM   #8
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bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?

yeah i'll do a video..

my car won't start unless the key is fully extended.. some others have verified the same.. Now once the car is started it doesn't matter if you fold back the key, as I said I have been doing that to keep the keys from rattling and smacking my knee.


But I'll make a video when I go to lunch.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:50 PM   #9
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Sure enough! Just tried this, got an STD
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #10
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One day you are going to have an RFID inside you too :-)
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:43 PM   #12
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bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?

Maybe since yours is in Canada it doesnt know any better than to not let someone steal it?
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:23 PM   #13
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bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?
Our 2011 2SS/RS is the same.

Makes no difference in the key position.
Starts with the key not fully open just as it does fully extended.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:55 PM   #14
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2010 SS here and it does'nt matter whether the keys fully extended or not..........starts right up. So this appears to be a feature exclusive to 12's............wondering if they added it at some point in the production run and whether the feature varies by VIN/build date/number or whether the V6 models like (
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are exempt, the OP's is a SS?
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:57 PM   #15
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2010 SS here and it does'nt matter whether the keys fully extended or not..........starts right up. So this appears to be a feature exclusive to 12's............wondering if they added it at some point in the production run and whether the feature varies by VIN/build date/number ?

it's possible. I dunno, just found it interesting..

could be with the redesign of the steering wheel/column in 2012, the RFID antenna is placed differently and the sender in the key isn't lining up.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:07 PM   #16
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Our 2011 2SS/RS is the same.

Makes no difference in the key position.
Starts with the key not fully open just as it does fully extended.
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it's possible. I dunno, just found it interesting..

could be with the redesign of the steering wheel/column in 2012, the RFID antenna is placed differently and the sender in the key isn't lining up.
That could explain the year model variances........but yours and
velocity149 are both 12's. His being a V6 though would'nt the steering wheels be the same ?
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:10 PM   #17
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That could explain the year model variances........but yours and
velocity149 are both 12's. His being a V6 though would'nt the steering wheels be the same ?

but he is also in Canada and I am sure there are some differences in the BCM programming as well as the Canadian version of our NHTSA has different regulations with regards to theft deterrent systems.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:12 PM   #18
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I don't want to risk breaking my car...so I won't try
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #19
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Interesting. Going to try this when I go to lunch today.

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Hmm..will try before work in the morning.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:00 AM   #22
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so i was messing around with the car, and i found out the follwing:
the car starts with key in any orientation
my tach dosnt work when i start the car with the key half folded
the shifter will ot shift into "M" with the key half folded.
I am scared that the theft deterent system is broken, and just ot fully working. called dealership, and they said that it should not start with the key half folded, as it is a security measure ensuring that nobody can copy the key (dont know how that is possible) but he booked me in for service.
anyways, thanks for bringing this up MR.iNCREDIBLE, s I would have never noticed this if you hadn't.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:03 AM   #23
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Mine started with the key in any orientation.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:08 AM   #24
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So if it starts then your theft deterrent system is broken?

Thank god mine didn't start.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:29 AM   #25
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....mine starts without it being fully extended......
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