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Old 12-20-2012, 09:42 PM   #151
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my memory sucks. would this be in the current body style or the next gen?
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:44 PM   #152
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700 hp vs 480 hp in a running mile I would hope that bad boy pulls away lol . That was pretty sick though 190+ mph
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:45 PM   #153
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:46 PM   #154
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Same here. I'll be picking up my ZL1 in a couple of days. I've been waiting 6 months for it. I have to take it. I can't wait any longer. I'm getting old.

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Geno, enjoy your new ZL1. In my opinion, it is the best Camaro that Chevy ever built. If this LS7 Camaro (Z28?) does appear, it is still a year away. My ZL1 still puts a smile on my face every time I fire her up. For Pete and the other LS7/Z28 hopeful, I hope this car does become a reality. No one wanted a Z28 more than I, but my ZL1 gave me more than I ever hoped for and ultragrin is a permanent ailment while driving my car. I am 100% sure that you will have the same affliction.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:48 PM   #156
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Geno, enjoy your new ZL1. In my opinion, it is the best Camaro that Chevy ever built. If this LS7 Camaro (Z28?) does appear, it is still a year away. My ZL1 still puts a smile on my face every time I fire her up. For Pete and the other LS7/Z28 hopeful, I hope this car does become a reality. No one wanted a Z28 more than I, but my ZL1 gave me more than I ever hoped for and ultragrin is a permanent ailment while driving my car. I am 100% sure that you will have the same affliction.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:57 PM   #157
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It seems to me GM shot themselves in the foot, the ZL1 should have been made with the LS7 engine. At $55K plus for the ZL1 they can't afford to put the LS7 in the car it would be priced out of its league. So why buy a Z28 with the LS7 at the same price? The 1LE should have been available with an engine option other than the LS3 426 HP. Haven't we've seen this before where GM is making bad decisions, look what's going on with Mustang in sales for NOV 2012 they out distanced the Camro by a long shot, why?
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:59 PM   #158
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the LS7 is a great engine, but it does have siamese cylinders. Does anyone know how it holds up to the LS3? I know stock it blows it away but how does the LS7 like boost?
It has sintered Ti rods, and can only go to 657 to 675 hp. I have one in my Z06, serious LS7 power comes by re-sleeving with stronger cylinder walls and lower compression to handle the 15 to 18 psi required to reach 750 to 850 RWHP. Thats serious money at +$20K.

You can easily get to 657FWHP with an Edlebrock SC, or various SC; but those lightweight rods will bend past 700 fwhp. That ok in a Z06 vette where 3260lb/675=4.86lb/hp; but in a car at 3900 lbs that yields 5,77 lb/hp.

Frankly an LSA pumped to 900 FWHP!!! in a Z06 seems to be a cheap route to ZR1 power on a diet 3260/900=3.62!. So to make a world beating Z29 they need to use an aluminum subframe and go on a serious diet. An LSA crate w/o sc goes for 10
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:01 PM   #159
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I hear ya about weight, the 5th gen is heavy!!!!
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:02 PM   #160
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It seems to me GM shot themselves in the foot, the ZL1 should have been made with the LS7 engine. At $55K plus for the ZL1 they can't afford to put the LS7 in the car it would be priced out of its league. So why buy a Z28 with the LS7 at the same price? The 1LE should have been available with an engine option other than the LS3 426 HP. Haven't we've seen this before where GM is making bad decisions, look what's going on with Mustang in sales for NOV 2012 they out distanced the Camro by a long shot, why?
The LSA ZL1 can be sold in volume. The LS7 production cars are limited in volume by the EPA. The ONLY reason a LZ7 powered Camaro is going to be available is that the new C7 Vette will have a different range of engines leaving a short supply of LS7s for some very special Camaros.

GM and Chevrolet are not perfect, but TEAM Camaro got this exactly right.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:14 PM   #162
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #163
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #164
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Man...after the ZL1 I thought I was done buying Camaro's untill the 6th gen:(
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:26 PM   #165
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:32 PM   #166
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Go pick her up...You will not be disappointed. Plus I just have a gut feeling there is going to be stipulations with that engine just like there was with the 1LE...but who knows . I picked mine up 11/28/2012. Still haven't stop receiving a bunch of compliments.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:32 PM   #167
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So is a 1.3L diesel, and the 1.6 turbo.
The Diesel is not listed in the Cruze though, that is supposed to be the first car it debuts in, this year. There's a few small oddities in there. I hope the LS7 isn't a mistake. I really want to think its a mistake , but AL and Scott are always so adamant there is still more goodies to come for the Camaro in this generation.

A hot-wheels blue, cloth interior 1ss/rs-1le with a LS7 would quite possibly be perfection.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:45 PM   #168
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The Diesel is not listed in the Cruze though, that is supposed to be the first car it debuts in, this year. There's a few small oddities in there. I hope the LS7 isn't a mistake. I really want to think its a mistake , but AL and Scott are always so adamant there is still more goodies to come for the Camaro in this generation.

A hot-wheels blue, cloth interior 1ss/rs-1le with a LS7 would quite possibly be perfection.
Yeah, the diesel is for the Sonic (though who knows if those will be USDM, Canada-only, or Mexico-only Sonics). Also, I think Fen mentioned earlier that this is likely still a work in progress.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:47 PM   #169
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:53 PM   #170
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How many of these LS7 are there then. I keep seeing limited and they will no longer be produced since the Corvette will no longer use it.

I wish GM would release something regarding what kind of Camaro this will be used in. Part of me is wanting to wait for this oppose to the 1LE that I will be buying here come Wed. Perfect timing, :(
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Geno, enjoy your new ZL1. In my opinion, it is the best Camaro that Chevy ever built. If this LS7 Camaro (Z28?) does appear, it is still a year away. My ZL1 still puts a smile on my face every time I fire her up. For Pete and the other LS7/Z28 hopeful, I hope this car does become a reality. No one wanted a Z28 more than I, but my ZL1 gave me more than I ever hoped for and ultragrin is a permanent ailment while driving my car. I am 100% sure that you will have the same affliction.
6 months ago before we start seeing the 2014 models?
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:21 PM   #172
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Considering the LFX (which I'm guessing is what the LF3 will be based on) makes between 300-323 hp (depending on application), I should hope the LF3 makes significantly more than 380 hp.
Its an eco-boast type engine, not a high-performance (such as GTR) type engine.
Boost would only be a few pounds to minimize the fuel economy penalty over a naturally aspirated V6.
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Not going to happen. GM tried boosting the LS7 when they were doing development on what would become the LS9. It couldn't meet their durability tests (something about engines blowing up durring testing).


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How many of these LS7 are there then. I keep seeing limited and they will no longer be produced since the Corvette will no longer use it.

I wish GM would release something regarding what kind of Camaro this will be used in. Part of me is wanting to wait for this oppose to the 1LE that I will be buying here come Wed. Perfect timing, :(
GM should have the capacity to build thousands of LS7s. I think I heard that the capacity of Wixom is something like 12,000 units. Currently, that includes LS7s, LS9s, and handbuilt LS3s for the Grand Sport -as well as some crate engines and I'm not sure what else. Since most, if not all, Corvette related production will be going away for the 2014 MY, there will be a lot of potential at the plant (there has been for a while now but thats beside the point).

From the looks of things, its possibly going to be part of one of the existing trims as there were no new trims listed in the VIN form.
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From the looks of things, its possibly going to be part of one of the existing trims as there were no new trims listed in the VIN form.
Or is it a altered list just to stir up some excitement.....
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:40 PM   #174
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Yeah, this is definitely not a finished list. The truck VINs are missing the '14 Sierra/Silverado and SUVs as a whole.

Plus I had downloaded the '13MY to decode the VIN for our new Terrain and that list was on its 6th revision.

Edit: Now that I'm looking through it, it's also missing the Regal, LaCrosse, Corvette, and SS.
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GM should have the capacity to build thousands of LS7s. I think I heard that the capacity of Wixom is something like 12,000 units. Currently, that includes LS7s, LS9s, and handbuilt LS3s for the Grand Sport -as well as some crate engines and I'm not sure what else. Since most, if not all, Corvette related production will be going away for the 2014 MY, there will be a lot of potential at the plant (there has been for a while now but thats beside the point).
It isn't a capacity or profitability issue that restricts the sale of the LS7 in an OEM vehicle. It is the EPA
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