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Old 12-21-2012, 10:11 AM   #239
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Unless something has drastically changed, fbodfather and those with him told me there would be no LS7 5th gen. The only way I see it as a possibility would be a LS7 option for a COPO car.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:25 AM   #240
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Looks like the LS7 would be an option, like 1LE. If it can be combined with the 1LE I shall forever call it the Z28, regardless of what GM may decided to name such a combo.
I really don't think that this info at this stage in the game would list the Z/28 as a trim level..look a 11 pages of excitement in less than 24 hrs!! there is far more speculation introduced from the info we do have which causes induced excitement than just throwing it out there. We still have months of spyshots and the summer to get through then I speculate the cat will be let out of the bag. Sounds like a marketing wildfire to me and they don't even have to spend 1 cent in advertising!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:36 AM   #241
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I just received a note from our friends on the Camaro team.

They'd like everyone to know that this VIN card is not accurate, or complete. It's an early draft that was never meant to be used for anything but development of the 2014 VIN sequence. To quote a portion of the message:

"It is not the final document, as it does not include a complete or accurate list of models or content. As you can imagine, the VIN card requires a tremendous amount of collaboration to verify the production information for each model across all four GM brands sold worldwide.

Rest assured, when we finalize the 2014 VIN card, it will be complete and factually accurate."


So that adds one more piece of information to chew on and what this all means, if anything....
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:38 AM   #242
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Yeah it means that they left off the Z/28 trim level on the Camaro VIN Card!! It also means that they are monitoring this site to see what kind of wildfire it will spark!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:41 AM   #243
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:44 AM   #244
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I just received a note from the Camaro team.

They'd like everyone to know that this VIN card is not accurate, or complete. It's an early draft that was never meant to be used for anything but development of the 2014 VIN sequence. To quote a portion of the message:

"It is not the final document, as it does not include a complete or accurate list of models or content. As you can imagine, the VIN card requires a tremendous amount of collaboration to verify the production information for each model across all four GM brands sold worldwide.

Rest assured, when we finalize the 2014 VIN card, it will be complete and factually accurate."


So that adds one more piece of information to chew on and what this all means, if anything....
Won't be the first time , something slipped through GM official channels and they would be FUBAR to deny it now..

"Originally Posted by fbodfather We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name."

Parts labeled "Z28"




LS7 slip + Camaro coming back to USA = Z28 around the corner, watch
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:48 AM   #245
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:58 AM   #246
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If you'll notice, there is no engine code for LS3 on that PDF??? But there is LS7 and LT1...but it shows up of the camaro page as an option? only thing is still disagree with the LS7 in a Z/28 is the damn gas guzzler tax we are gonna have to pay on it..haven't we spent enough?
I get 24 MPG avg and 30 on interstate with my 550 RWHP LS7 (about 2 - 3 MPG when I floor it, lol). Same with my 400 some HP 4th gen Camaro. Just needs a taller 6th gear. (And some weight reduction )
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #247
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Damage control!

I was always one to say the LS7 will never make it into a Camaro as it's on the way out and also too expensive (hand-built).
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:13 AM   #248
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notice the highlight area???? The Book code for the camaro is 8E, and the Camaro VIN card shows the LS7 as does it correlate with the passenger car engine table!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:16 AM   #249
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Damage control!

I was always one to say the LS7 will never make it into a Camaro as it's on the way out and also too expensive (hand-built).
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:24 AM   #250
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Yeah it means that they left off the Z/28 trim level on the Camaro VIN Card!! It also means that they are monitoring this site to see what kind of wildfire it will spark!!
I hope this is the most likely possibility. There is a reason the LS7 is listed on this Camaro vin card. Seeing the LS7 listed on the Sonic vin card would be a mistake. Good news is they haven't totally debunked the card. The only negative that could be drawn out of that statement in my mind is that maybe the LS7 Camaro won't be ready until the 2015 model year.
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Chapter 5, LS7...the plot thickens.....muuuaaaahaaahaa...... This VIN card from the dept. of black ops-disinformation division, is exactly what we need right now to keep us going throughout the winter and keep us excited until we have tangible product information directly from GM, ... Fasten your seat belts........ .
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:30 AM   #252
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notice the highlight area???? The Book code for the camaro is 8E, and the Camaro VIN card shows the LS7 as does it correlate with the passenger car engine table!!
Excellent post. They can't fool the diehards.
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