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Old 12-21-2012, 04:23 PM   #290
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Why? Ever see the price of anything with an LS7?

You got a great car, great engine, at a quite reasonable price with an LS3 ss. I bought a few Z06's back in the C5 day. Awesome car, great LS6 engine.... then the C6 Z06 came out with the Ls7 and the price shot through the roof. No more Z06s for me after that.

I wish they'd do a 427, wet sump, non titanium, cam'd with a tq range for the heavier Camaro, priced below the ZL1. Without the titanium, the rev limit would have to come down a bit, but for an affordable price - I'd love a 427 Camaro.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:36 PM   #291
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Well if they can lose 40k on each volt that is sold the can break even on a few camaros with an ls7 motor
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #292
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See section 8 of that pic you quoted.
Thanks. Wrote it off because I just saw LS3. Still don't think the H.O. means anything like a HP increase but you never know these days.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:08 PM   #293
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Maybe this thread is related to this thread:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249870

GM files trademark application for Z28 name
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:20 PM   #294
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2014 ZL1 with LS7? Is that what I am reading?
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #295
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2014 ZL1 with LS7? Is that what I am reading?
Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but most are assuming a 2014 Z28 with an LS7 and probably a 1LE type suspension setup. But that is all an assumption. Which may be along the lines of something that I would pay for.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #296
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2014 ZL1 with LS7? Is that what I am reading?
Nope. The LSA is still on there.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:43 PM   #297
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The 5th Gen has been a steady sales success first because it was a ground breaking design and had a legion of fans waiting to buy. The success was supported with special editions and the introduction of the Vert. That was followed by the much anticipated release of the Z/28 which turned out to be the LSA powered ZL1 loaded with electronic genius. The addition of the 1LE for 2013 keeps excitement high and sales moving. So what do we do for 2014? We just happen to have a handful of LS7 production motors available. We have brakes, drive line, suspension and more to go with an LS7. We just happen to have another revered name plate we could use. Why not build a 427 LS7 powered Z/28 in 2014? That will keep the focus on the 5th Gen headed into the 2015 model year. What can you expect in the 15? My guess is a knock you socks off LS9 ZL1. That keeps the 5th Gen new and exciting for the release of the Alpha 6th Gen as a 2016.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:48 PM   #298
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The 5th Gen has been a steady sales success first because it was a ground breaking design and had a legion of fans waiting to buy. The success was supported with special editions and the introduction of the Vert. That was followed by the much anticipated release of the Z/28 which turned out to be the LSA powered ZL1 loaded with electronic genius. The addition of the 1LE for 2013 keeps excitement high and sales moving. So what do we do for 2014? We just happen to have a handful of LS7 production motors available. We have brakes, drive line, suspension and more to go with an LS7. We just happen to have another revered name plate we could use. Why not build a 427 LS7 powered Z/28 in 2014? That will keep the focus on the 5th Gen headed into the 2015 model year. What can you expect in the 15? My guess is a knock you socks off LS9 ZL1. That keeps the 5th Gen new and exciting for the release of the Alpha 6th Gen as a 2016.
Dear God I hope you're right. Makes sense to me.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:53 PM   #299
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Dear God I hope you're right. Makes sense to me.
I don't think the Camaro TEAM needs my future product schedule advice, but I do enjoy reading the tea leaves and knowing what they are going to do next. The real luxury we have is if they don't follow our strategy we can all blame them later for not giving us what we wanted

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Old 12-21-2012, 06:00 PM   #300
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The 5th Gen has been a steady sales success first because it was a ground breaking design and had a legion of fans waiting to buy. The success was supported with special editions and the introduction of the Vert. That was followed by the much anticipated release of the Z/28 which turned out to be the LSA powered ZL1 loaded with electronic genius. The addition of the 1LE for 2013 keeps excitement high and sales moving. So what do we do for 2014? We just happen to have a handful of LS7 production motors available. We have brakes, drive line, suspension and more to go with an LS7. We just happen to have another revered name plate we could use. Why not build a 427 LS7 powered Z/28 in 2014? That will keep the focus on the 5th Gen headed into the 2015 model year. What can you expect in the 15? My guess is a knock you socks off LS9 ZL1. That keeps the 5th Gen new and exciting for the release of the Alpha 6th Gen as a 2016.
I like your style of thinking right there.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:00 PM   #301
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Sorry the LS7 is going in the Sonic and will now be called Super Sonic
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:01 PM   #302
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Sorry the LS7 is going in the Sonic and will now be called Super Sonic
The LS7 might tear a sonic in half.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:06 PM   #303
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I love how I posted a thread about this about 2-3 months ago and everyone called me a liar and said I didn't know what I was talking about.
Yep,same here....I also mentioned an LS7 was coming,and guys thought I was nuts.
I also knew and mentioned about the Hot Wheels edition way back in the Spring,and was told I was crazy about that too!
And for those who don't remember....I was the first to post about the 1LE going into production as well
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:08 PM   #304
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I'm a little late to the game here so this may have already been said, but if you look at Fords Ecoboost V6, its really only making 365HP and 350TQ, but with a tune those numbers jump by 100 to 150.

We know enough about FI in the LFX to know it is capable of those numbers without a doubt. But I do agree, that with the NA V6 already making 323, 380 doesn't sound like much for a TTV6....just have to remember there is A LOT more untapped potential there (and a very strong flat TQ curve!)
As DGthe3 mentioned in response to an earlier post of mine, the 380 hp TT3.6 is likely tuned more for FE than performance. Although I would hope to see a high output version for select applications (e.g. ATS-V, Alpha Buick Grand National [if they make one], etc.)
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:08 PM   #305
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I have to agree. It's been said that the 427 will no longer be offered in the corvette after 2013. If this is the case, there is no way it would be offered in the camaro.

Interesting though.
Yes....in the Corvette,they didn't say anything about the Camaro though
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Yep,same here....I also mentioned an LS7 was coming,and guys thought I was nuts.
I also knew and mentioned about the Hot Wheels edition way back in the Spring,and was told I was crazy about that too!
And for those who don't remember....I was the first to post about the 1LE going into production as well
Big claims there. We got LS7 threads since before you were a member.
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