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Old 12-22-2012, 10:11 AM   #375
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See now this is a problem in my opinion for people with 2010's. It's the first model year of the 5th gen and especially if you plan on sticking with the camaro like I do since I paid mine cash its really tough to want to trade it in because of the history that goes along with it. Then you also know that there is always going to be improvements every year with something better and something someone wants so and it's really not practical to switch it up every couple years unless you have money to burn. So I guess I will probably be keeping my 2010 and once the last model year comes around with all the bells and whistles of previous improvements maybe I will splurge and buy that one too. Just my .02
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #376
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WE ALL drive ticking time bombs. No cars last forever! Every engine WILL fail at some point. Chevrolet will not install a new motor based on fear.

I hear valvetrain noise all the time in my LS3. Is it excessively noisy...I don't think so....but if someone told me the LS3s have a problem with valvetrain....I might get a little paranoid and think my valvetrain noise is louder than usual.

see what I'm sayin?
Quite frankly I don't see your point, there have been enough people with problem motors to know the problem is real. And GM has provided no diagnostic method.

You would think that GM would want to support loyal customers and one of the flagship vehicles.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:21 AM   #377
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Quite frankly I don't see your point, there have been enough people with problem motors to know the problem is real. And GM has provided no diagnostic method.

You would think that GM would want to support loyal customers and one of the flagship vehicles.
Define enough? Do you have a number count? Chevy very much supports loyal customers. Have YOU had a problem with YOUR LS7 and Chevy DIDN'T take care of you?
NO?
well then SSSHHH!
I wanna get back to enjoying my LS7 Camaro hopeful thread and I WILL be buying one if it comes out!
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:25 AM   #378
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Not sure why all the surprise about a Camaro with the LS7. I was surprised that this package wasn't released before the ZL1.

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LIVE at SEMA 2008: Four Chevrolet Camaro Concepts and Accessories Revealed


GM officially present 4 Camaro concepts at the SEMA show 2008. We knew we’d see some variations of the Chevrolet Camaro on present, but the facts had us aching to see the in self. While each has their own rare pull, the LS7 Concept stood outmost.
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Designed to be something of a bewilder-back to the glory being of the muscle car era when somebody in the know could toddle into their district Chevy dealer and limit the COPO box to order up a chase-bred, fire-breathing 427 V8 in the engine bay, this LS7 Concept shows what 2010 Camaro shoppers might be able to do with a great letter-prose struggle. The LS7, as its name implies, skin the GM Performance Parts LS7. Crate motor tuned to fabricate 550 horsepower gratitude to several GMPP performance accessories.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:29 AM   #379
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Define enough? Do you have a number count? Chevy very much supports loyal customers. Have YOU had a problem with YOUR LS7 and Chevy DIDN'T take care of you?
NO?
well then SSSHHH!
I wanna get back to enjoying my LS7 Camaro hopeful thread and I WILL be buying one if it comes out!
Shouldn't you be asking GM that question? And NO they didn't take care of me............
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:36 AM   #380
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you have 100K miles or 5 years. They will handle it! GM is NOT Ford. They admit to their mistakes and own up and fix it. Try having a 5 point slow with a Chinese trans that 2nd/3rd gear grinds with no recall! The synchros eventually sh*t themselves and you only have 1st 5th and 6th.
Not to be a party pooper but I think we have a 2nd gear grind, there are a few threads and as far as I know, there are no recalls from GM.

I love GM, but just saying, and yes, I want a LS7!!!!!!
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:44 AM   #381
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:46 AM   #382
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I wonder how much faster a stock LS7 would be compared to a stock LS3 in a straight line? There have been many that have put modified LS7's in their cars. Has anyone put in a crate LS7 and ran it? Just curious because with the weight of these cars I'm wondering how much of a difference you would feel?
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:51 AM   #383
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85hp between the two there should be some difference
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:17 AM   #384
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I know there will be some difference, I'm just wondering with the increase in torque and all how it would feel. It should be lighter than a ZL1, actually it should be about the same weight as the SS so I'm wondering how close it would come to a ZL1?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:46 AM   #385
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I know there will be some difference, I'm just wondering with the increase in torque and all how it would feel. It should be lighter than a ZL1, actually it should be about the same weight as the SS so I'm wondering how close it would come to a ZL1?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #386
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I know there will be some difference, I'm just wondering with the increase in torque and all how it would feel. It should be lighter than a ZL1, actually it should be about the same weight as the SS so I'm wondering how close it would come to a ZL1?
We don't know what they will do but I seriously doubt a Z28 would weigh the same or less than an SS. Bigger rear end would add weight. I don't want them to worry about weight too much because that would drive up cost.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:04 PM   #387
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I jI can't convince myself that a Z/28 is worth it if. Super-charged SS will match it and it's apparently difficult to mod the LS7.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:13 PM   #388
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LS7 is more difficult to mod, and because if the siamese cylinders they are not that good under boost.

If I were to get one, it would just be cam/headers/intake which would give you one heck of a street car.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:42 PM   #389
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It seems common for the LS7 with cam/head/CAI/exhaust/tune to make in the 600BHP range. LPE has a 660BHP LS7 package, Katech offers a 630BHP LS7 package so this seems to be something that the tuners have gotten down.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #390
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I only raise the issue because the vin card has no new "trims." So if the hype is true and to polish the language. Would the Z28 be offered as an option and not a trim? Similar to what the 1LE is?

That can't be right can it?

Could the LS7 equipped Camaro be anything other than a Z28?
Samething I was thinking...

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I was at the dealership today looking at a 1le, glad I didnt buy it. They also wanted to much. 5k mark up. I wonder what the price will be for an ls7 camaro. It better be below $50k. I am thinking around $45k would be perfect.
Sounds like you need to change your username. $5k mark up? Order one, or you can find some for below invoice.

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It's a no no. But heads, cam, headers, intake can get you 550 - 600 RWHP (Mainly depending on the cam). Just need to watch out for the valve guide issues. I'm putting aftermarket heads w/ solid SS exhaust valves on mine this winter.

A 1LE + LS7 would be one bad ass Camaro.
1LE + LS3 is bad ass too, no?

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I just received a note from our friends on the Camaro team.

They'd like everyone to know that this VIN card is not accurate, or complete. It's an early draft that was never meant to be used for anything but development of the 2014 VIN sequence. To quote a portion of the message:

"It is not the final document, as it does not include a complete or accurate list of models or content. As you can imagine, the VIN card requires a tremendous amount of collaboration to verify the production information for each model across all four GM brands sold worldwide.

Rest assured, when we finalize the 2014 VIN card, it will be complete and factually accurate."


So that adds one more piece of information to chew on and what this all means, if anything....
It means that, that VIN card is accurate for the Camaro.

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notice the highlight area???? The Book code for the camaro is 8E, and the Camaro VIN card shows the LS7 as does it correlate with the passenger car engine table!!
I don't see the LS3 in that....
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:23 PM   #391
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Ha some guy was GM probably said "Ah the world is gonna end anyways, might as well let the word out."
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