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Old 04-06-2008, 11:31 PM   #18
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Newbie here. Thanks to Bouncertime for inviting me to go with him today. I had a blast and the new Camaro is awesome. The Vette ride was incredibly fun.

As for the person above that asked about the T-shirt. They have them in the gift shop at the facility. Ask Punchy for details on how to get one, or maybe call the Proving Grounds and ask for the gift shop.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:14 AM   #19
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Great info!

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Any idea on engines? - Nothing solid, one variant does have a supercharger.
Was the Mustang used as a comparison? - The GT500 was used as a benchmark.
This kinda talk leads me to think that we might be seeing a monster engine in the top end V8. CTS-V engine anyone???
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:30 AM   #20
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sooooo . . . did anyone 'forget' to leave their camera behind? Nobody? Hmm. Thats fine, its nice to know that everyone plays by the rules and such.

(PM me the pictures . . . I won't tell anyone!)
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:39 AM   #21
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I didn't see any cameras. I'm quite certain everyone did play by the rules, as much as it hurt to do so. I always have a camera, except today, and I sure missed my camera.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:43 AM   #22
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Crap another thing... Ill edit my main post.

The engineer guy responded to a question about the IRS, that it was not the same one the GTO had..

and like KG said.. I saw no cameras, the only pics i have are in my head...
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:48 AM   #23
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You guys are killing me here. I keep waiting to come in here and see a pic.

I believe I had a great group of people though and from what I was seeing, everyone played by the rules.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:50 AM   #24
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You guys are killing me here. I keep waiting to come in here and see a pic.

I believe I had a great group of people though and from what I was seeing, everyone played by the rules.
Punchy, we were sooooo worried that you were gonna lose your job over just letting us look at and paw them.. nobodies job is worth some pictures of a car that will be out soon enough.

You deserve a lot more respect than that.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:50 AM   #25
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Awesome post. All I can say is paddle shifters, S/C, and the GT500 was the benchmark. This new Camaro is going to be amazing, and I cant wait to get my hands on one.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:53 AM   #26
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Punchy, we were sooooo worried that you were gonna lose your job over just letting us look at and paw them.. nobodies job is worth some pictures of a car that will be out soon enough.

You deserve a lot more respect than that.

And I do feel you all gave me that respect. Thanks guys.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:55 AM   #27
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More good questions from behind the scenes.... the names where changed to protect the inocent!

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diarmadhi, thanks for the writeup and your impressions of the Camaro. Great to know that the auto transmission will have paddle shifters and that there are auxiliary buttons on the steering wheel that weren't seen in the spy photos. Also, I see that the HUD question is still left uncertain, but did you see or did anybody ask if it would have a nav system or an automatic climate control system as options? Thanks in advance.
Those questions where not asked simply because even if they are offered, they wouldn't be on these test mules. Those things don't need road testing just workup in a lab and then endurance tested in a warehouse. From what i saw of the interior, you will get standards stuff for climate controls and there was no nav screen/display.
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:01 AM   #28
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There was this one guy with a camera but Punchy spotted him, spoke into his 2-way radio and before we knew it, a fleet of black Suburbans showed up outa nowhere and hauled the guy off! Didn't see him again. If I didn't know better, I'd swear FbodFather was driving one!

Actually, contrary to typical Arizona wild west behavior, we all were very appreciative of what Punchy was doing for us and had no problem leaving our cell phones behind.

But I will say this, There's at least 3 test mules in Mesa, AZ and I travel about 100 miles a day for work. I do have both a camera and camcorder in tow. I have no problem being late to wherever I'm going if it's for a good cause. If I see one in the wild it's GAME ON!
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:06 AM   #29
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MORE I WANT MORE!!!

Is it really small? I saw the concept in real life. I didn't find it that small. The production car was only going to be like 1 inch smaller.

Was it what you expected, was it more? Anyway, more detail.

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:19 AM   #30
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All this small talk has me a bit worried. The Bumblebee Saleen GTO which is the same size as the original concept is not small by any means. Is it smaller than a 98 Ford Mustang??? Is the front seat lower to compensate where you can't see the hood at all while driving as in the 4th gen camaro? If you are over 6 feet, how much head room from the top of your head to the roof can we expect? As for all you lucky forum members that got to be there, I envy all of you. I know all of these answers will be solved once they hit showroom's, however it would be nice to know sooner so I can make my decision between the Camaro and the new Challenger. From reading the specs of both car's, the Camaro is supposed to be wider than the Challenger... Is this true?
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:32 AM   #31
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Remember, non of us has seen the Concept in person and I know that the pre-production car was smaller than I expected, but it is not tiny by any means. It is definetly bigger than a Mustang.
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Remember, non of us has seen the Concept in person and I know that the pre-production car was smaller than I expected, but it is not tiny by any means. It is definetly bigger than a Mustang.
That's good to hear. I'm glad you guys had fun while you were there and did actually see the camaro. I wish they had let you take photographs of the event considering we already have photo's of the car's you saw. The most interesting comment was the one about the GT500 which means we should be seeing a 500HP Camaro or better in the works?
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:14 AM   #33
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diarmadhi, thank you for that very detailed write up!!! You are to be commended, sir!

Punchy, I can't even begin to thank you enough for putting forth this effort and taking these folks out for the tour. I mean really....that was very kind of you.

I could only imagine the great memories that were made today...vette ride doing 360's and drifting?? Dang! But, getting to see 3 black prepros out there!?! Now...why do ya'll think there was one completely covered up..... I'm guessing V6, V8, V8 SC...one for each black prepro. And...someone mentioned supercharger??? huh??? what have I been saying?!?!?! Something that really makes me happy is that Bluetooth... I could use that all the time. Ah....and that's what the thing was on the dash!!! A speaker! Cool deal....sounds like we are going to have some 5.1 surround sound in this bad boy. Did you see a label w/ type of speaker?

Guys, you all are so lucky...living out there and getting to take part in something as cool as this. And, as much as I'd like to see pix, thanks for being honest and respectful to Punchy. Congratulations, guys. And, it really is that much better in person!
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