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Old 01-06-2013, 10:16 PM   #43
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Of course the Track Pack Mustang get you nothing extra that helps handling over the Brembo package which is mainly just better tires.

You need to step up the the Boss to get a car comparable to the 1LE.

This was a lame comparison test. Typical Motor Trend.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:23 AM   #44
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Wow, a BOSS 302 Mustang with DRAG radials performing impressively at the dragstrip!!!! What's next, a GT500 Shelby with supercharger removed, 6 cylinders deactivated and a solar panel instead of glass roof getting 20mpg city, on a VOLT forum!!!! Awesome!

The BOSS has a sole purpose, road racing. It got its behind handed by the 1LE at $5000 cheaper on a ROAD COURSE. It also showed a few tricks to the BOSS LS, which is a lot, a lot, more.

No that is impressive.


lol that is bone stock. with dr's it's 11's.


the camaros are faster at the road course. we all know that and need to accept that. 1LE is faster...period.


we all go to the road course, and on the street road course victories is what matters.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:47 AM   #45
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Ford could not stop MT from putting a Boss 302 versus a 1LE if they were willing to do so on their own dime or with an owners car. All Ford refused to do is give them a Boss 302 to use for this particular article. Yeah, because they wussed out.

Ford has been offering incentives on the Mustang forever. Even when there wasn't a Camaro being produced.

Some folks on here are poor winners!
We're poor winners because this comparison sucked. We've been waiting for a Boss LS comparison since Al O called it out. They might as well have used a V-6 Mustang.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:19 AM   #46
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The price is the only thing going for the Mustang. Also ford has bigger rebates going for their models right now.
may be since they were outsold by Camaros. (pretty sure i read that somewhere).

was the original quote.

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Ford has been offering incentives on the Mustang forever. Even when there wasn't a Camaro being produced.

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my statement had nothing to do with the fact that they were having rebates or incentives. the op noted that ford has bigger rebates right now. not in the past tense.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #47
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:02 PM   #48
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i compared Motortrends track time of the 1LE and 2012 Boss LS and there was about a 20 second difference... im not sure if the 2013 is twenty seconds better, but it goes to show you that the limitations of the suspension on the Mustang is holding it back...
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i compared Motortrends track time of the 1LE and 2012 Boss LS and there was about a 20 second difference... im not sure if the 2013 is twenty seconds better, but it goes to show you that the limitations of the suspension on the Mustang is holding it back...
If I am not mistaken, and I could very well be, but the track the Boss LS was tested on was a signifigantly LONGER version of the track and means that in no way, shape, or form can be compared..... and please tell me how it would make any sense for the GT to be withing 3 seconds and the boss only within 20........
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So motortrend was Lame because they tested a 2SS 1LE against a Mustang GT Premimum with the Track Pack package because the Camaro cost $4,000 more than the Mustang. Then we have those saying the Boss LS would have beed a closer race if they had used it. well, I just priced a Boss LS on Fords website and it listed for $49,990. the Camaro SS 1LE listed for $43,105. so that is over $7,800 difference.
In that account by some peoples reasoning on here the Boss LS should beat the Camaro SS 1LE almost twice as badly as the Camaro SS 1LE beat the Mustang GT.

Remember MT WANTED to use a Boss LS to test against the SS 1LE but it was FORD'S decision not to do it. So don't blame MT for being lame, Blame Ford for being the LAME ONE.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:46 PM   #51
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you're right, which sounds like to me:

"give us a free car to tear up or else we'll give you a poor review against your biggest competitor"

Then all their reviews and this thread is moot.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:57 PM   #52
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So motortrend was Lame because they tested a 2SS 1LE against a Mustang GT Premimum with the Track Pack package because the Camaro cost $4,000 more than the Mustang. Then we have those saying the Boss LS would have beed a closer race if they had used it. well, I just priced a Boss LS on Fords website and it listed for $49,990. the Camaro SS 1LE listed for $43,105. so that is over $7,800 difference.
In that account by some peoples reasoning on here the Boss LS should beat the Camaro SS 1LE almost twice as badly as the Camaro SS 1LE beat the Mustang GT.

Remember MT WANTED to use a Boss LS to test against the SS 1LE but it was FORD'S decision not to do it. So don't blame MT for being lame, Blame Ford for being the LAME ONE.

A 1SS/1LE is only around $37K or about 1/3 of the 1LE's price again comparing it to the Boss LS. If your buying a 1LE or a Boss LS who needs the fluff anyway?
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #53
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A 1SS/1LE is only around $37K or about 1/3 of the 1LE's price again comparing it to the Boss LS. If your buying a 1LE or a Boss LS who needs the fluff anyway?
i blame old age and older bones. (heated seats so rock!!)
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:14 PM   #54
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GM really delivered with the 1LE camaro. They did an excellent job on the car.

I will definitely document the feedback into our database for all departments of GM to access. What do you like most about the 1LE?

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Old 01-10-2013, 04:58 PM   #56
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I will definitely document the feedback into our database for all departments of GM to access. What do you like most about the 1LE?

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Everything, but I hope GM gives us 1LE guys and girls some special package like they did for the ZL1. Stating our car number and such.
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