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Old 01-09-2013, 02:57 PM   #43
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This is very true. Special editions are one way the manufacturers keep interest, especially with these types of cars and ESPECIALLY when they are a few years into a model run. It helps keep it fresh and keep interest in product, especially with a new model on the horizon in a few short years. Only problem today is people expect more the special editions than just tape, wheels, and stickers so the best of the breed usually hits the market from the middle to the end of a model run.

Something else I have been cosidering is where exactly would an LS7 fit in the pricing structure? you have what, a 10k difference between a 2SS 1LE and the ZL1 and that is kind of a small gap, not to mention the 1LE is also dangerously close to the performance of the Zl1 in many aspects and there is a good possiblity a lighter 550 HP LS7 with the 1LEs gearing and transmission advantages could pretty easily match and even equip the ZL1. Would they try to squeexze it in the middle or would it actually be a pricier and higher model than the ZL1? Am I overthinking it?
No , I am thinking the same way. I have also been wondering what angle Chevrolet would take if they do an LS7 option. With all these reviews of the 1LE coming in and it being pretty close to the ZL1 in most comparisons. It will be a fine line they will have to walk to squeeze all 3 of those high performing Camaro's in their line-up.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:05 PM   #44
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I posted this What If in another thread.

What if the LS7 Camaro turns out to be a Street Legal version of the COPO instead of the Z28?
Would anyone want one?
^^^ ...This may just be the answer right here! When the original COPO cars were built the COPO Camaro was only allowed to be ran in the all new AHRA Pro Stock class.."IF" atleast 50 production models were made available to the general public. It would make sense for them to offer a "limited" run of street legal COPO's now. Especially being that the LS7 is a low production engine anyway. ............ ..Food for thought for sure..
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:21 PM   #45
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FWIW i think the 1le is modeled after the SSX but uses Zl1 stuff to make it a consumer product
That is pretty much what I said/meant to say with the links I provided.

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]If the Z/28 does come out, like stated in this post the line will be out the door and around the block. So, with that being said the 1LE production numbers will go way down and "we" 1LE owners will be owners of limited production number cars then watch our resale number take off.
I agree about the low number production car part. Your resale/car value will only maintain or go up if the car is in EXCELLENT condition with very little miles.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:36 PM   #46
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^^^ ...This may just be the answer right here! When the original COPO cars were built the COPO Camaro was only allowed to be ran in the all new AHRA Pro Stock class.."IF" atleast 50 production models were made available to the general public. It would make sense for them to offer a "limited" run of street legal COPO's now. Especially being that the LS7 is a low production engine anyway. ............ ..Food for thought for sure..
If you believe the Vin card that lists the LS7 it doesn't show anything COPO related. An LS7 Camaro would most likely be low production but not that low. I would think ZL1 type production numbers or higher.
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If you believe the Vin card that lists the LS7 it doesn't show anything COPO related. An LS7 Camaro would most likely be low production but not that low. I would think ZL1 type production numbers or higher.
Didn't someone say that the VIN card was preliminary and no way complete? Who knows what if any of it was the real deal. I was just giving a What If scenario...
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:44 PM   #48
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If you believe the Vin card that lists the LS7 it doesn't show anything COPO related. An LS7 Camaro would most likely be low production but not that low. I would think ZL1 type production numbers or higher.
I'm not sure what their marketing strategy will be if it is a completely different model and not an engine option only. Unless its a street version of the COPO. The line-up will be extremely crowded if its a Z28, IMO. Either way I am interested to see "if" this even becomes reality and if so , to what extent.
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If they build an LS7 based Camaro it will be a Z28 you can bet on it. And if they build it, it will market itself. A 1LE + ZL1 Brakes + Aero + LS7 = Z28 in every way possible according to its original design.
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If they build an LS7 based Camaro it will be a Z28 you can bet on it. And if they build it, it will market itself. A 1LE + ZL1 Brakes + Aero + LS7 = Z28 in every way possible according to its original design.
The original design for the Z/28 used the smallest V8 available, it was a high revving small 302 CI 5L engine. Not a 427. If they ever bring out a new Z/28, I bet it will use the new Corvette 5.5L engine.
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The original design for the Z/28 used the smallest V8 available, it was a high revving small 302 CI 5L engine. Not a 427. If they ever bring out a new Z/28, I bet it will use the new Corvette 5.5L engine.
Exactly....The COPO used the 427ci in 1969.... Z/28 used a 302ci
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The original design for the Z/28 used the smallest V8 available, it was a high revving small 302 CI 5L engine. Not a 427. If they ever bring out a new Z/28, I bet it will use the new Corvette 5.5L engine.
The LS7 is a high revving SB. The limit on CI was due to the Trans Am series and nothing else. As a matter of fact the Z28 in 1970 had a 350 CI engine due to a TA rule change.
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The LS7 is a high revving SB.
Doesn't matter it's still a 427, even if there is no such thing as big block or small block designations still too many Cubic Inches there in my book plus its a complete different block than the LS3. Not the idea behind the original Z/28.
The change to the 350 was also when the Z/28 started a downhill slide performance wise.
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The LS7 is a high revving SB. The limit on CI was due to the Trans Am series and nothing else. As a matter of fact the Z28 in 1970 had a 350 CI engine due to a TA rule change.
Yep, and the 1970 340 Sixpack AAR Cuda was introduced to compete in Trans Am racing also. It was a good era when dealerships had the saying "win on Sunday, sell on Monday"


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Doesn't matter it's still a 427, even if there is no such thing as big block or small block designations still too many Cubic Inches there in my book plus its a complete different block than the LS3. Not the idea behind the original Z/28.
The change to the 350 was also when the Z/28 started a downhill slide performance wise.
How is it not like the original design? Engine size? It was TA rules not Chevy s. The 1970 Z28 with the LT1 was an awesome Camaro.
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Yep, and the 1970 340 Sixpack AAR Cuda was introduced to compete in Trans Am racing also. It was a good era when dealerships had the saying "win on Sunday, sell on Monday"


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