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Old 01-10-2013, 02:07 AM   #86
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I have been wondering why no one seems to think this is big deal either.
Possibly, and this is just my opinion, it's not really a big deal because its already happened. If this were 3 years ago when the SS came out it would be a big deal but the Mustang is on its way out and the Team Camaro has just now stepped up its game (with the ZL1 and 1LE). The 1LE is a little late to the party but seeing as its an amazing performer it's better late than never. I can't wait to add the 1LE or aftermarket suspension to my Camaro. Maybe next year....

Also gearing is something that can be changed in any Camaro maybe that has something to do with it...
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:38 AM   #87
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If the 1LE was reported as 500 lbs lighter the members here would loose their minds. The performance gains by the 1LE equipped SS in the quarter are the equivalent to the SS being 500 lbs lighter. Thatz BIG news!! 12.7 say what?!

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Old 01-10-2013, 07:56 AM   #88
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"Best handling Camaro yet." -- Kinda kicks the ZL1 in the nuts, dontchathink? Considering the ZL1 was supposed to be the ultimate track Camaro in the lineup..
Both are very nice cars but the 1 LE is not a ZL1 just like the ZO6 is not a ZR1. Look at the the results from the lightning lap, the ZL1 was 4 seconds faster on the track than the 1LE.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:51 AM   #89
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How do they say that a 1LE handles better than a ZL-1? I'm not sure I get that.....
"Handling" is more than just measured performance stats. The way it "feels" as you're generating those numbers is part of it.

IOW, more about transient behavior such as when you initiate a turn and the car is still in the process of rolling over to however much your cornering will ultimately make it go. I think you have to look beyond such factors as weight, weight distribution, and tire size(s) in the static sense and try to imagine how they (and other factors) affect how the car responds to your steering and pedal inputs as a function of time. Yeah, I know that's kind of a big mouthful all at once.


I'd certainly expect the 1LE's handling feel to be "lighter" and for it to be slightly more responsive even if there isn't much difference in the published skidpad and slalom numbers.


One analogy might be the difference between using a 28-oz framing hammer vs the 16-oz claw hammer that many of us probably own. One of them gets the job done rather more brutally than the other.


Semi-off topic - I'm surprised that the Boss LS is that far off the pace . . . or that anybody on the planet could spot Randy Pobst 20 seconds a lap at WS and still beat him back to the line.


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Old 01-10-2013, 10:37 AM   #90
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The 4.2 0-60 I find really amazing. Drop a 100 pounds and add 50 HP and your knockin' on the 3's.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #91
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The 4.2 0-60 I find really amazing. Drop a 100 pounds and add 50 HP and your knockin' on the 3's.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:24 AM   #92
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Nice article on the 1LE and the history of them in the Jan Camaro Performers Mag.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:43 PM   #93
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The Chevy Performance LS3 heads and cam shaft with new tune can may be a must have! 40hp expected. Still naturally aspired. Retails for $1,500.


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Old 01-12-2013, 07:49 AM   #95
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I find that it's more fitting to mean "Secretly We Are Gay"...

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If I were to buy the 2010 2SS RS I have my eyes on, is it possible to down the road upgrade my suspension to match this?
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:28 AM   #96
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I find that it's more fitting to mean "Secretly We Are Gay"...

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If I were to buy the 2010 2SS RS I have my eyes on, is it possible to down the road upgrade my suspension to match this?
Yes, just a bit more work is required as you need to convert to FE4 first (2010-11 SS Camaros come with FE3)
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I'm wondering If they are guessing at the $1500. I went to Rick Hendrick chevy on thursday and the part number is not in the system. He even called chevrolet directly and it's not there yet.
I have the part number memorized. Lol. and will be installing the package on my ls2 GTO.
You guys can google it "19300535"
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:06 PM   #98
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I'm wondering If they are guessing at the $1500. I went to Rick Hendrick chevy on thursday and the part number is not in the system. He even called chevrolet directly and it's not there yet.
I have the part number memorized. Lol. and will be installing the package on my ls2 GTO.
You guys can google it "19300535"
What do you think labor would run to install?
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even though the 1le probably feels good and maybe "handles" better than a Zl1. i would still think a ZL1 will get a better track time.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #100
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I have been wondering why no one seems to think this is big deal either.
Because stock SS Camaros have run 12.7s. The mag times are a poor indicator of what a regular SS actually runs. In all honesty, I think that with the 3.91 rear, and sticky 285 series rears, the 1LE will be even faster than that, and quicker than a Brembo packaged 5.0 as well.
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even though the 1le probably feels good and maybe "handles" better than a Zl1. i would still think a ZL1 will get a better track time.
We agree. It was way faster in the hot lap.





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Because stock SS Camaros have run 12.7s. The mag times are a poor indicator of what a regular SS actually runs. In all honesty, I think that with the 3.91 rear, and sticky 285 series rears, the 1LE will be even faster than that, and quicker than a Brembo packaged 5.0 as well.
Not many of them in the fast list here. One I think. Also the 111.8 is top of list on a stock LS3. Obviously we need to start a new list.

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The Chevy Performance LS3 heads and cam shaft with new tune can may be a must have! 40hp expected. Still naturally aspired. Retails for $1,500.


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Have they released the catalog prices or is this just a rough estimate?
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