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Old 01-12-2013, 12:14 PM   #101
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even though the 1le probably feels good and maybe "handles" better than a Zl1. i would still think a ZL1 will get a better track time.
We agree. It was way faster in the hot lap.





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Because stock SS Camaros have run 12.7s. The mag times are a poor indicator of what a regular SS actually runs. In all honesty, I think that with the 3.91 rear, and sticky 285 series rears, the 1LE will be even faster than that, and quicker than a Brembo packaged 5.0 as well.
Not many of them in the fast list here. One I think. Also the 111.8 is top of list on a stock LS3. Obviously we need to start a new list.

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Old 01-12-2013, 03:25 PM   #102
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Have they released the catalog prices or is this just a rough estimate?
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:48 PM   #103
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Have they released the catalog prices or is this just a rough estimate?
I have not seen pricing yet..

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Old 01-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #104
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even though the 1le probably feels good and maybe "handles" better than a Zl1. i would still think a ZL1 will get a better track time.
Of course it would. And any racing sanctioning body would put the two cars in separate classes.


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Old 01-12-2013, 04:05 PM   #105
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Of course it would. And any racing sanctioning body would put the two cars in separate classes.


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well you got people in this thread hearing the words best handling camaro, and they go crazy. saying how the ZL1 should handle better or something
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:36 PM   #106
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Z06 Corvette handles better then the ZR1 Corvette, I see the 1LE and ZL1 in the same light as those two (just how it worked out).
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:57 PM   #107
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I think people put too much stock in these words. I can remember Randy Pobst saying the ZL1 was his new favorite American muscle car, unseating the Boss LS. It doesn't really mean much. Just words. Numbers speak for themselves. ZL1 is no doubt the top performing factory Camaro and for the price it better be. The 1LE is an outstanding factory option and may handle better, whatever that means, but the ZL1 will lap faster.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:22 PM   #108
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Have they released the catalog prices or is this just a rough estimate?
Pace Performance has pricing:

http://paceperformance.com/i-1038930...d-cam-kit.html


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Old 01-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #109
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and may handle better, whatever that means,
Handling is much harder to quantify than simple lap times and skidpad or even slalom measurements, although I think Car and Driver did publish two or three articles over the years where attempts at doing just that were made.

I'd certainly expect the heavier ZL1 to turn in a little less "crisply" than a 1LE, given that the front tires and wheels are the same for both.


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Old 01-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #110
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I would have killed to have a dual-mode exhaust option when I ordered mine....
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:06 AM   #111
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I would have killed to have a dual-mode exhaust option when I ordered mine....
Yeah, they should have offered the npp long ago for the Camaros. It was a must have option for me, when ordering the 1LE
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:59 PM   #112
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Word on the street is that 1LE track times are better than the ZL1. And the ZL1 doesn't have time to take advantage of the super charger. Also, the 1LE doesn't suffer from heat soak as much as the Mustangs, so the 1LE wins on longer races.

Just what I've been reading/watching. Makes sense to me.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:04 PM   #113
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Word on the street is that 1LE track times are better than the ZL1. And the ZL1 doesn't have time to take advantage of the super charger. Also, the 1LE doesn't suffer from heat soak as much as the Mustangs, so the 1LE wins on longer races.

Just what I've been reading/watching. Makes sense to me.
Just FYI, the GT500 doesn't heat soak like the ZL1 does (by that I mean to the extent) and **** yeah 1LE!!!
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