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Old 01-12-2013, 09:13 AM   #76
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TO THE O.P.! Why does everyone post threads about getting the shaft/getting screwed/etc? So far....EVERY year has technically gotten the shaft...2011vs 2010 got heads up. 2012 vs 2011 got FE4 and UVC. 2013vs 12 got EPS and my link. There has been a change every model year. I DO NOT feel shafted. You need to GTFO the forum if your panties are in a bunch! Complain about an awesome product Chevrolet has given us and brought back the Camaro. NO SHAFT HERE.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #77
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TO THE O.P.! Why does everyone post threads about getting the shaft/getting screwed/etc? So far....EVERY year has technically gotten the shaft...2011vs 2010 got heads up. 2012 vs 2011 got FE4 and UVC. 2013vs 12 got EPS and my link. There has been a change every model year. I DO NOT feel shafted. You need to GTFO the forum if your panties are in a bunch! Complain about an awesome product Chevrolet has given us and brought back the Camaro. NO SHAFT HERE.


The 1LE is quite possiblly one of the greatest bang for buck RWD performance cars of all time.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:21 AM   #78
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I agree. 500HP/500TQ is easily attainable with the 6.2L. I initially had thoughts of throwing an S/C on one, but I started being reasonable and thought about the balance of the car and the balance of my bank account.

Throw on Heads/Cam (The GMPP kit will work well) add a CAI (you pick I'm leaning toward the VaraRam) and a set of LT Headers add a tune and you will be well over 500HP/500TQ at the flywheel. Doing this will keep the balance intact and possibly improve upon it. Also do the ZL1 brake upgrade.

I kind of figure that the 1LE is something that you want to keep the balance intact and too much weight over the nose or power might ruin the "balancing act" the car has going on.

This is pretty much my plan btw... I'm going in to order her in Mid Febuary. I still have hopes that the Heads/Cam and Brakes will be able to be thrown into the loan. I might change my mind about that though.
I'd be interested in this also even if I could get a limited warranty out of it. Please post your findings when you do so.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:41 PM   #79
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Not sure I agree. The Z-28 shouldn't cost more than the ZL1. I'm thinking the Z would replace the 1LE.


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Old 01-12-2013, 12:43 PM   #80
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I agree. 500HP/500TQ is easily attainable with the 6.2L. I initially had thoughts of throwing an S/C on one, but I started being reasonable and thought about the balance of the car and the balance of my bank account.

Throw on Heads/Cam (The GMPP kit will work well) add a CAI (you pick I'm leaning toward the VaraRam) and a set of LT Headers add a tune and you will be well over 500HP/500TQ at the flywheel. Doing this will keep the balance intact and possibly improve upon it. Also do the ZL1 brake upgrade.

I kind of figure that the 1LE is something that you want to keep the balance intact and too much weight over the nose or power might ruin the "balancing act" the car has going on.

This is pretty much my plan btw... I'm going in to order her in Mid Febuary. I still have hopes that the Heads/Cam and Brakes will be able to be thrown into the loan. I might change my mind about that though.
Sounds great.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:01 PM   #81
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TO THE O.P.! Why does everyone post threads about getting the shaft/getting screwed/etc? So far....EVERY year has technically gotten the shaft...2011vs 2010 got heads up. 2012 vs 2011 got FE4 and UVC. 2013vs 12 got EPS and my link. There has been a change every model year. I DO NOT feel shafted. You need to GTFO the forum if your panties are in a bunch! Complain about an awesome product Chevrolet has given us and brought back the Camaro. NO SHAFT HERE.
Lots of people are just never happy with what they have. I for one was going to wait for the next gen camaro to come out but i would never buy a first model year car and i didnt really want to wait another 3-4 years to pickup a camaro. the 1le platform is a great starting point for an all out race car. I will never regret that i bought myself a 1le no matter what comes next. From whats been going on im slowly starting to see the 5th gen 1le becoming a modern day legend and if any 1le owner thinks there getting the shaft they should have never bought one to begin with.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:56 PM   #82
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I agree. 500HP/500TQ is easily attainable with the 6.2L. I initially had thoughts of throwing an S/C on one, but I started being reasonable and thought about the balance of the car and the balance of my bank account.

Throw on Heads/Cam (The GMPP kit will work well) add a CAI (you pick I'm leaning toward the VaraRam) and a set of LT Headers add a tune and you will be well over 500HP/500TQ at the flywheel. Doing this will keep the balance intact and possibly improve upon it. Also do the ZL1 brake upgrade.

I kind of figure that the 1LE is something that you want to keep the balance intact and too much weight over the nose or power might ruin the "balancing act" the car has going on.

This is pretty much my plan btw... I'm going in to order her in Mid Febuary. I still have hopes that the Heads/Cam and Brakes will be able to be thrown into the loan. I might change my mind about that though.
Now your talking
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:29 PM   #83
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Don't forget 2012 got a power passenger seat. QUOTE=davidcroft;6025933]TO THE O.P.! Why does everyone post threads about getting the shaft/getting screwed/etc? So far....EVERY year has technically gotten the shaft...2011vs 2010 got heads up. 2012 vs 2011 got FE4 and UVC. 2013vs 12 got EPS and my link. There has been a change every model year. I DO NOT feel shafted. You need to GTFO the forum if your panties are in a bunch! Complain about an awesome product Chevrolet has given us and brought back the Camaro. NO SHAFT HERE.[/QUOTE]
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:37 PM   #84
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Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??
How do you know it was a typo?
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:12 PM   #85
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the only way i could see the 1le getting the shaft, is if the ls7 equipped camaro is priced very close or same with it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:57 PM   #86
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Maybe I'm the odd guy out here but I can't see the current Camaro getting anLS7 option. That is an expensive engine.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:55 PM   #87
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Maybe I'm the odd guy out here but I can't see the current Camaro getting anLS7 option. That is an expensive engine.
How much more does a LS7 cost over a LS3?
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:59 PM   #88
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How much more does a LS7 cost over a LS3?
Give or take an extra $5,000
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The LS7 is probably 2x the price but primarily because it is hand built. They could do a mas produced version and it would only be marginally more expensive.

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How much more does a LS7 cost over a LS3?
I'd say it is $7k more just looking at Crate engine prices.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:48 PM   #91
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I'd say it is $7k more just looking at Crate engine prices.
I could live with that. Chevy could easily do a 1le ls7 for under $45k.
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I think there is more to it than just cost / price.
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I bet they'll just call it "Camaro 427" edition just like they did for the corvette convertible with the 7.0 LS7. So they can save the Z/28 name for the next gen Camaro.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:44 PM   #94
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I think all of the 1LE buyers have gotten the shaft. Because of this unfortunate mess you have gotten yourself into, I will be nice and buy your 1LE for half of the price you bought it for. That way you can walk away from this disaster with something to show for.
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I bet they'll just call it "Camaro 427" edition just like they did for the corvette convertible with the 7.0 LS7. So they can save the Z/28 name for the next gen Camaro.
Me too. No Z28 or twin turbo v6 for the 5th gen.
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Why not call it a Z28?
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Interesting read regarding the LS7.


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Old 01-13-2013, 10:22 AM   #98
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Why not call it a Z28?
Same reason they didn't call the ZL1 or 1LE a Z28....
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Same reason they didn't call the ZL1 or 1LE a Z28....
And you'd be wrong.

The ZL1 is not a Z28, why? A Z28 will be NA.
The 1LE is not a Z28, why? It is missing some ingredients, i.e. high revving track designed engine...

The 1LE is close. Add an engine that loves to rev keeping it in the power band longer and rocketing it out of the turns faster and then see where the VIR lap time ends up.
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How do you know it was a typo?
I guess I don't know if the moon landing was staged either. All I'm saying is right now the LS7 Camaro is rumor, the same way the Z/28 has been for four years. It's fun to speculate though.

But anyone who thinks driving a 426HP, great looking, practical car that handles like the 1LE for less than $37K is getting the shaft just needs to have their head examined...
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