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Old 02-06-2013, 04:02 PM   #601
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Doesn't bother me at all, I'm quite happy with the 580hp of my ZL1.

Even if they came out with a SC LS7 for the ZL1 to bump the power up, I still wouldn't care. 580 is more than enough to put a smile on my face for a looooong time.

However the question in my mind is still the same. If the new LT1 is coming out, why not just use it?
Your ZL1 is an awesome automobile. The attraction of the LS7 is less weight and heat. There is no blower. Heat soak will not be as intense. i.e. The LPE Pedders L/28 from the factory with a warranty.



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Rumor has it that the ATS-V will be a twin turbo V6. Due next year I think. We would likely see that before the twin turbo z/28.


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yea 505hp stock is great but you can do alot more more to a twin turbo v6 trust me you can put bigger turbos tunes and bolt ons and destroy a LS7 no disrespect a v8 LS7 is great but its to heavy and in this day in age its the lighter the better
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Everyone talk about the Ls7 camaro but i think the twin turbo V6 is going to be a beast its lighter and handles amazing
You and I have very different definitions of what a beast is.

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yea 505hp stock is great but you can do alot more more to a twin turbo v6 trust me you can put bigger turbos tunes and bolt ons and destroy a LS7 no disrespect a v8 LS7 is great but its to heavy and in this day in age its the lighter the better
You can do twice as much when you've got twice the displacement. After all, you can do all those things that you just mentioned for an LS7, or any V8 for that matter.


And I'd like to know how you think this TTV6 will be so so sooo much lighter than the LS7. The LFX V6 is something like 360 lbs straight away, compared to about 440 lbs for a similar LS7. Rule of thumb says that when a manufacturer goes forced induction it'll add 75 lbs or so to an engine. So a TTV6 is going to weigh almost exactly the same as an LS7. Best case scenario is that there will be a difference of perhaps 20 lbs. While that would make for a better handling car, the difference is going to be less 'OMG, this is teh bestest evar!!11!' and more 'Are you sure this handles better?'


Methinks you've watched the video on the Leno Camaro 1 too many times.
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yea 505hp stock is great but you can do alot more more to a twin turbo v6 trust me you can put bigger turbos tunes and bolt ons and destroy a LS7 no disrespect a v8 LS7 is great but its to heavy and in this day in age its the lighter the better
The fully trimmed LS7 weighs about 450 lbs. The LFX V6 weighs about 370 lbs. Add the twin turbos, ducts, intercoolers and fluids and I doubt there would be much weight difference between the two.
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I dont think a TTV6 will be there to compete with the V8 models because GM will not be fool to destroy a market share with another.

The V8 will always be on the top
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Talk about collector cars....! It makes sense for Chevy to truly consider the LS7 for the last of the 5th gen Camaros. Sales have currently slowed considerably and the Camaro moniker can hardly stand to die before the 6th gen arrives. If the LS7 option wasn't hugely expensive, I could see a revival of sorts using this tactic. The idea of an LS7 engine in the 5th gen isn't a fresh idea from GM by the way,...Camaro5 guys have been doing that rather well since 2010!
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Talk about collector cars....! It makes sense for Chevy to truly consider the LS7 for the last of the 5th gen Camaros. Sales have currently slowed considerably and the Camaro moniker can hardly stand to die before the 6th gen arrives. If the LS7 option wasn't hugely expensive, I could see a revival of sorts using this tactic. The idea of an LS7 engine in the 5th gen isn't a fresh idea from GM by the way,...Camaro5 guys have been doing that rather well since 2010!
I agree. A LS7 equipped Z28 with applicable suspension options would be a proper sendoff for the last of the 5th gens. The 427 hopefully has made it's development and engineering $$ back by now, so here's to hoping GM will slid it into the Camaro just above cost. With custom exterior paint colors available at extra costs
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Talk about collector cars....! It makes sense for Chevy to truly consider the LS7 for the last of the 5th gen Camaros. Sales have currently slowed considerably and the Camaro moniker can hardly stand to die before the 6th gen arrives. If the LS7 option wasn't hugely expensive, I could see a revival of sorts using this tactic. The idea of an LS7 engine in the 5th gen isn't a fresh idea from GM by the way,...Camaro5 guys have been doing that rather well since 2010!
Sales are always slow in the Winter months. The chart states sales are off 14% from last year. That's a difference of 784 cars. We'll have to wait and see what the sales figures will be later this year.
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If Chevy replaces there top dog to a six Banger, I'll be going back to mustang in a hurry.... or just never buy anything but a 5 th Gen...

If it doesn't have an 8 I don't want it!!!
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GM would be able to promote the LS7 as a 427 for the Camaro. It would get people excited for sure especially if they put it with the 1LE trim or in standard SS Trim.
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If it doesn't have an 8 I don't want it!!!
My thoughts exactly. The V6's are nice, but once you own a V8, there is no going back (for me, at least)
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If Chevy replaces there top dog to a six Banger, I'll be going back to mustang in a hurry.... or just never buy anything but a 5 th Gen...

If it doesn't have an 8 I don't want it!!!
I think that if GM has invested the time and money they did into the LT1, it's a good bet that V8's will be around for quite some time still....
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If Chevy replaces there top dog to a six Banger, I'll be going back to mustang in a hurry.... or just never buy anything but a 5 th Gen...

If it doesn't have an 8 I don't want it!!!
Oh yee of little faith. Does it really matter how many cylinders it has as long as it performs up to the namesake?
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yea 505hp stock is great but you can do alot more more to a twin turbo v6 trust me you can put bigger turbos tunes and bolt ons and destroy a LS7 no disrespect a v8 LS7 is great but its to heavy and in this day in age its the lighter the better
I think you can twin turbo a LS7
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Oh yee of little faith. Does it really matter how many cylinders it has as long as it performs up to the namesake?
Umm actually it does!! Ever hear the sound that only comes from a 8!! Not to mention the torque!!
Enough said!!
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In 2014 the camaro will have all new powertrains and one will be a LF3 vvt which means a twin turbo v6 and it should have around 350 to 360HP its going to be a beast but everyone is going for the LS7 camaro but a twin turbo setup will be alot better with bolt ons and tuning look it up

No.

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No.

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No.
Case closed.
Have the powertrains been decided on for the 6th gen yet?
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No.

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Awesome..... i like the fact that Scott knows exactly what is going to happen and everything else anyone says is just a guess... Im just going to sit back and
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Talk about collector cars....! It makes sense for Chevy to truly consider the LS7 for the last of the 5th gen Camaros. Sales have currently slowed considerably and the Camaro moniker can hardly stand to die before the 6th gen arrives. If the LS7 option wasn't hugely expensive, I could see a revival of sorts using this tactic. The idea of an LS7 engine in the 5th gen isn't a fresh idea from GM by the way,...Camaro5 guys have been doing that rather well since 2010!
GM doesn't put too much thought toward collector cars. They don't see a dime from the markup, so to them its just another sale. If it makes 427 enthusiasts (or whatever the number is) happy, great. But otherwise? Sales x profit dominate decisions, as they do in any other company.
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Sales are always slow in the Winter months. The chart states sales are off 14% from last year. That's a difference of 784 cars. We'll have to wait and see what the sales figures will be later this year.
Winter sales are always down, but then again ... winter sales for this seasons are down a bit more than they were for the 2 most direct competitors.
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