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Old 03-06-2013, 11:11 AM   #301
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...perhaps there's something we've been waiting for, contained in this:

http://autoblog.ca/reader/news/gm-co...d-new-cadillac

"Besides the new Chevrolet SS sports sedan that we already know about, the other four world premieres from GM are a "refreshed" version of the 2014 Chevrolet Camaro, which the company says "advances the design and performance attributes that have made it the most popular sports car under $50,000 for three consecutive years" ...
Who knows. We shall see....
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march 27th is the unveil date
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...2015 Z/28. Drop the ZL1. Use all that was learned from this engineering experiment and it's success to bring it to market. Make the flagship Camaro once again Z/28. There is no calculable corporate profit goal to have both. Go once again with the face of the Camaro. And let it be the standard bearer for Chevy.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:58 PM   #305
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...2015 Z/28. Drop the ZL1. Use all that was learned from this engineering experiment and it's success to bring it to market. Make the flagship Camaro once again Z/28. There is no calculable corporate profit goal to have both. Go once again with the face of the Camaro. And let it be the standard bearer for Chevy.
No ZL1 should be top dog. It should be the all inclusive Camaro. The Z28 should be purpose built. Think ZR1 and Z06. Simple!
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Check this link!! Looks like good things are coming!

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...2015 Z/28. Drop the ZL1. Use all that was learned from this engineering experiment and it's success to bring it to market. Make the flagship Camaro once again Z/28. There is no calculable corporate profit goal to have both. Go once again with the face of the Camaro. And let it be the standard bearer for Chevy.
In the same way there is a profit goal for the ZR1 and Z06, why can't there be a ZL1 and Z28? Corvette will always be the standard bearer for Chevy.


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In the same way there is a profit goal for the ZR1 and Z06, why can't there be a ZL1 and Z28? Corvette will always be the standard bearer for Chevy.


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GM has to plan the 6th gen better than they planned the 5th gen. Pricing else and performance wise. They need to follow the same format as the Vette.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:38 PM   #309
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They estimate 355 HP. How does adding 2 turbos to an LFX only add 32 HP? you can get that with bolt-ons.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:20 AM   #310
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They estimate 355 HP. How does adding 2 turbos to an LFX only add 32 HP? you can get that with bolt-ons.
Tuning for mpg, not power.
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In the same way there is a profit goal for the ZR1 and Z06, why can't there be a ZL1 and Z28? Corvette will always be the standard bearer for Chevy.


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probably because many here are guessing that a Z28 and ZL1 would be extremely close in performance and $ wise.

The Base Z06 and Base ZR1 still have 30K seperating them. Yeah they perform very close together but the ZR1 due to the higher price has more of that "exclusiveness" to it IMO that it doesnt get cross shopped with other Corvette models. Where as if someone wants a bad ass camaro, they see a Z28 and ZL1 within a few thousand of each other now you have two models competing against each other.
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that's why they won't be as close in price as some say.
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that's why they won't be as close in price as some say.
I agree if they can slot it somewhere in the mid 40 range they got a solid solid solid business case IMO. But if its 50K that IMO is to close to a ZL1
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I agree if they can slot it somewhere in the mid 40 range they got a solid solid solid business case IMO. But if its 50K that IMO is to close to a ZL1
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...GMauthority has a post of a possible news release about Camaro at the NY autoshow.....so maybe we will get the word...about.....
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:50 PM   #318
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You mean this one?
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Either everyone is hoping for a Z28 or they know something is coming.
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..oh somethings coming, for sure......just what is the question....but small increments and baby steps have been the rule in the recent past, but things seem to have turned a corner and are heading in a progressive delivery timetable. That trend is across the board with regular mass transportation. Technology is breaking out in a big way. I also hope it transends to the high peformance venue with the Camaro in the immediate future where we get the whole plate full, rather than spoon fulls. Maximizing profit with minimal product improvement is a dead business model.
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Either everyone is hoping for a Z28 or they know something is coming.
Everyone but you seems to know it is coming. Obviously we do not have 100% irrefutable truth but there have been so many insider hints and the leaked vin cards. It is coming with an Ls7, the only question for me is if they will call it a Z28 and I cant think of a single,reason they wont. Well, we also need to know what cosmetic changes it will have and what breaks and other upgrades will come with it as well as the price.
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Everyone but you seems to know it is coming. Obviously we do not have 100% irrefutable truth but there have been so many insider hints and the leaked vin cards. It is coming with an Ls7, the only question for me is if they will call it a Z28 and I cant think of a single,reason they wont. Well, we also need to know what cosmetic changes it will have and what breaks and other upgrades will come with it as well as the price.
Just like everyone knew the Z/28 was coming and it turned out to be the ZL1...

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No ZL1 should be top dog. It should be the all inclusive Camaro. The Z28 should be purpose built. Think ZR1 and Z06. Simple!
...no, the ZL1 should be dropped, it was a replacement for the Z/28. Use the platform engineering developments, engineering concepts and overall development that was learned from the project and incorporate it into the Z/28 along with the DI next gen motor, and Pedders.. We always had SS and Z/28, we need no more than that historicaly.
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...no, the ZL1 should be dropped, it was a replacement for the Z/28. Use the platform engineering developments, engineering concepts and overall development that was learned from the project and incorporate it into the Z/28 along with the DI next gen motor, and Pedders.. We always had SS and Z/28, we need no more than that historicaly.
It was not a replacement for the Z28. GM saw what they had created was NOT a Z28. It was/is a ZL1. In Gen1 they had 3 SS's 4 if you include the 427 SS. There IS room for a Z28 & a ZL1 as they are different Camaros as designed. The Z28 has never in its history competed against the GT500. The ZL1 has been brought back to do just that, cause the GT500 ain't goin' away.
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