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Old 03-11-2013, 12:57 AM   #35
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A shop with a engine dyno in a controlled environment should test this. It would put this debate to rest. Same goes for the ported TB.
It has been tested by a few different shops and all showed gains, however many people still don't want to believe the results.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:36 AM   #36
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It has been tested by a few different shops and all showed gains, however many people still don't want to believe the results.
Not talking HP gains, but TR improvement. A dyno won't show that.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:07 AM   #37
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That's easy. Show me any tangible graph that can show the increase in throttle response of a wedge vs stock. Opinion and SOP is so subjective it's not even funny. We have guys stating their new exhaust free'd up 20+whp on their cars and will SWEAR to it, just because it feels 20whp faster. Do you believe them too? If you want to make claims on here, we need them to be backed up with some kind of proof. My throttle response feels faster just doesn't cut it.
Exactly....!!!

Placebo: "I spent some money on a POS & it must make more HP because I spent some money"......

With all the TB acceleration placebo delays - all sheeples should immediately take their car to the dealer for warranty service to repair for free. And for those on the cheap, maybe you can stealer beg for a $1.00 off coupon for an increase in HP oil change (begins with the letter Z), gee.....

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Old 03-11-2013, 08:07 AM   #38
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It's amazing how much "press" this little piece of plastic gets....both good and bad.


Try it, if you don't like it sell it or return it...either way, there's no shortage of buyers for it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:46 AM   #39
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That's easy. Show me any tangible graph that can show the increase in throttle response of a wedge vs stock. Opinion and SOP is so subjective it's not even funny. We have guys stating their new exhaust free'd up 20+whp on their cars and will SWEAR to it, just because it feels 20whp faster. Do you believe them too? If you want to make claims on here, we need them to be backed up with some kind of proof. My throttle response feels faster just doesn't cut it.
the only way i know to test throttle response is at the track. unfortunately, im not going any time soon. and even then, i am too much of a variable to provide consistent results. ...so...that being said.

did i need a dyno to realize the gains made from adding LT's? NOPE
did i need a dyno to realize the gains from my CAI? NOPE
or how about when i added my 3.91 gears? NOPE (its quick as shyt)
ported TB to be added to this list soon...

...just sayin.

yes, a dyno or 1/4 mi is nice when looking for the actual gain made with the addition of each part. i agree that you really won't feel a HP increase of anything under 10 (especially on an LS3). i disagree when it comes to throttle response (what i see as a direct result of added TQ). you can feel the difference in throttle response, you can hear, and see it. the car responds quicker, you can hear the engine rev up quicker, and you can see the RPM's climb faster. thats all the proof i need. but you'll probably tell me that my uncalibrated but dyno is off

anyhow, whats it gonna hurt? vararam will return it if you don't like it anyway.

i'll keep enjoying my placebo effect...
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:13 AM   #40
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This thing seems too easy to add to not do if you are adding a ported TB. Looking at the pics the concept seems logical enough. $100 is almost nothing when you think that it costs almost $80 to fill a Camaro from empty. What can it hurt?

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:29 AM   #41
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It has been tested by a few different shops and all showed gains, however many people still don't want to believe the results.
Please tell me what shop tested this on a engine dyno? A engine dyno is completely different from a chassis dyno because you can completely control the environment and all testing paramiters.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:46 AM   #42
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Oh man this subject has been beat to death! Let's all agree to disagree and move on! Strange thing is I keep coming back to read this thread even though I know it's a loosing argument no matter what! I was thinking about getting one because I do believe in the feel you might get with throttle response but I'm installing 3.91's soon and I think THAT will give me all the throttle response I need! I'll put that $100 to better use to help pay for the gears install!
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:57 AM   #43
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^^^thete you go^^^

Those are real mods!
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:03 AM   #44
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^^^thete you go^^^

Those are real mods!
lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:08 AM   #45
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lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.
Let me know next time you go to lunch if you're buying!
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:15 AM   #46
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lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.

Haha hey I didn't mean you weren't bud!
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:00 AM   #47
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i would go for it man. at worst you spent $100 dollars. wich in the big scheme of things is not that much. and i also agree that if shawn or nick say its good to go then it probably is. they havent been decieving or misleading in any way to me(they have had plenty of chances).
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:04 PM   #48
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Vararam Power Wedge

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Does it really work? Has anyone used it already.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:22 AM   #49
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Funny, saw a thread over on moderncamaro about this ....just now.
Im interested to know if the claims are true also.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:54 PM   #50
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Yea I saw it first at phastek but I wanted to see if anyone has tried it. It seems to have pretty good support.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:52 PM   #51
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