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Old 03-10-2013, 09:33 PM   #43
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Back in the first gen Camaro day...

Z28 = Top road track Camaro

SS L78 396 + 427 = Top 1/4 mile Camaros

Today we may find...

2014 Z28 = 2nd fastest or maybe tied road track Camaro

2014 Z28 = 2nd fastest 1/4 mile Camaro

Isn't guessing with some known facts fun?
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I apologize, never heard that the JL8 could be had on anything other than a Z28. I'd love to know the numbers on Camaros not Z28's. talk about rare!
I believe I read online it was somewhere around 200 cars that got this option code.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #45
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yes it said 206 verifiable orders as an option, but some were sold over the counter. If it was in todays money it would have been around a $5,000. option, OUCH!
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just found these pics??? Interesting



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yes it said 206 verifiable orders as an option, but some were sold over the counter. If it was in todays money it would have been around a $5,000. option, OUCH!

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Old 03-11-2013, 02:48 PM   #48
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The ZL1 as we know it was suppose to be a Z28. Some of the parts were made that actually said Z28 on them.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:19 PM   #49
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The bottom one is a ZL1 with the black trim painted body color. The other could just...maybe..., but I hate the fake vent!
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The bottom one is a ZL1 with the black trim painted body color. The other could just...maybe..., but I hate the fake vent!
I've seen that top pic before. It's an old photoshop that was made prior to the release of the ZL1.
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Even the rims on the top pic are different
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I agree with the first half of your comment, but why don't we need the ZL1 when GM's biggest competitor has a model it competes with?
...markets are downsizing because of tighter market shares and economic downturn reasons. Same as the simple explaination is that we don't have 6 divisions or so of products anymore, and 16 color options., That old model does not work. WE know the ZL1 morphed form the initial intent of resurecting the Z/28. Let's get back to the face of Chevy and basics, who really cares about a ZL1? How long has it been made? It's a replacement for the iconic GM muscle car...why carry a halo performer in the Camaro lineup other than Z/28? What impact has it to anyone who knows anything about what if was in the past and any meaning it has it has to us now? Can the limited market share<and price> be sustained over time? It's a 100th year of Chevy tip of the hat product design that Chevy can showcase... and they can do this thing whenever they see fit. It's here, they did it, better off retiring it, and moving forward with the Z/28 only I say. And make it what they wanted it to be before the economic collapse.
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...markets are downsizing because of tighter market shares and economic downturn reasons. Same as the simple explaination is that we don't have 6 divisions or so of products anymore, and 16 color options., That old model does not work. WE know the ZL1 morphed form the initial intent of resurecting the Z/28. Let's get back to the face of Chevy and basics, who really cares about a ZL1? How long has it been made? It's a replacement for the iconic GM muscle car...why carry a halo performer in the Camaro lineup other than Z/28? What impact has it to anyone who knows anything about what if was in the past and any meaning it has it has to us now? Can the limited market share<and price> be sustained over time? It's a 100th year of Chevy tip of the hat product design that Chevy can showcase... and they can do this thing whenever they see fit. It's here, they did it, better off retiring it, and moving forward with the Z/28 only I say. And make it what they wanted it to be before the economic collapse.
So you think Chevy should give up on the supercharged Camaro vs supercharged Mustang and focus only on the Z/28 as the top Camaro? I think we mostly agree on supercharging not belonging on the Z/28 or the ZL1 would still be a Z/28. For the future Z/28 to dominate as it should, GM would have to abandon giving the Camaro the lesser engines and share engines directly with the Z06. If the LT series is truly capable of delivering a 600 HP N/A 7.0 liter and drop that in the lighter, alpha based 6th gen, that would decimate plenty of competition, domestic or high priced import. The big issue is I just don't see GM doing that. The Corvette is the halo car and will always be separated from the pack.
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This "he said, she said" regarding "Corvette engine" usage belies one always-in-play FACT: Put the same engine in a 3900 lb vehicle and it will NOT outperform a 3200 lb vehicle, all other things being similar, which of course they're not...

It was the same at Ford when the 540 hp engine was used in the far-superior (dynamically) GT chassis than in the GT 500 Stang. GT outran the bigger/heavier/less-dynamic Stang...and so would the Vette. By its very nature, the Vette maintains a certain performance superiority over the Camaro...

The GT 500 is on a par, now, with the mid-decade GT only because of an extra 100+ hp...and improved GY tires.

Try that recipe on the 1SS/1LE Gen-5 Camaro with LS7 motor-vation and Michelin Pilot SS or Cup tires...and then watch the competition cringe!
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There is going to be a blue with white striped car at New York with a motor we currently don't have available in it..
Let's hope it looks very similar to this

If it does....I have a big decision to make !

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