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Old 03-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #137
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If people are complaining about the estimated price then they do not understand the cost of go fast goodies.

Obviously there is a group here who wish this car was watered down to a price point they can afford but to those people I ask "how different would a car like that be to what Chevrolet is offering now"?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #138
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I think everyone knows that, but at the price this car will cost. Majority of them will end up as garage queens. Personally, I think alot of the people that can afford this carm will buy it just to have it in their collection and only a small amount will buy it for its intended purpose.
I think it depends on how many they make. If people conclude that it has legitimate collector car potential then you're probably right. If they make enough for anyone showing up at a dealer prepared to pay MSRP or a bit less, then you'll see them at the track.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:44 PM   #139
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Please elaborate

I already did.
http://www.oldride.com/library/1969_...et_camaro.html

This was a car that you could drive on the road.
Refer to the options and the PRICE.
To go from stock to Z/28, the price of the car did not increase 50+ percent.

It is what it is. GM apparently has a niche audience that they want to cater to.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:48 PM   #140
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How about a show of hands from the old timers..... who remembers the 1st gen Z/28 as an economical alternative?
The Z-28 was a $450 option on the Camaro in 1969. It's now (roughly) a $30,000 upgraded trim level. I'm not bitching, it's just not for everybody.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:57 PM   #141
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The Z-28 was a $450 option on the Camaro in 1969. It's now (roughly) a $30,000 upgraded trim level. I'm not bitching, it's just not for everybody.

Wrong!!!
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:00 PM   #142
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It's street legal, not a track only car... supposing it will be limited production like a COPO.

Considering the mass flood of Camaro types already circulating, the z/28 fits well as a limited run for $70k+.
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The Z-28 was a $450 option on the Camaro in 1969. It's now (roughly) a $30,000 upgraded trim level. I'm not bitching, it's just not for everybody.
Nope it's not for everyone. It's for collectors to say they have one in their garage. The regulations now a days don't want avg guy to race. So they bump up the price on their race ready cars to keep it at bay. My estimate? 1-5% of those Z-28s produced touch a track. The rest will touch dust in a garage. With a few occasionally joy riding it a little.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:03 PM   #144
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Wrong!!!
Enlighten us professor.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:05 PM   #145
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After some time to think and reflect.....I retract my original statement...................Im on board with the new Z28.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:07 PM   #146
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OK so why would they bring another car out just like the others? Say you took a 1LE slapped a LS7 and the brakes on it would still be more than a ZL1.

Again the motor is 15K alone..

And if you did that then people would say this is just stupid. Why would I pay for a for a 1LE with a LS7 in it when I can get a s/c for alot less and be just has fast..

Either way you go people will not be happy.
Ok but that's not my point. My point is that you and Twisty and others are basically saying: "you asked for a Z/28. We gave it to you. It's really fast and it costs a lot of money. Can't afford it? Too bad, get lost."

My position: Chevy guys, they're salt of the earth normal people. And I get it when you say the Z/28 is pure and true to the heritage and all that. I think most people here understand that. But it seems like you can't grasp why GM putting out a car that you basically need to make $500,000 a year to afford would feel like a let down to a lot of people.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:08 PM   #147
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My .02 cents, GM & The Camaro Team did an excellent job with the Z28

Secondly, talk about sworn to secrecy ...................... The Camaro Deciples had to known in advance and kept it G4 Classified.................. 8-)
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:09 PM   #148
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Ok but that's not my point. My point is that you and Twisty and others are basically saying: "you asked for a Z/28. We gave it to you. It's really fast and it costs a lot of money. Can't afford it? Too bad, get lost."

My position: Chevy guys, they're salt of the earth normal people. And I get it when you say the Z/28 is pure and true to the heritage and all that. I think most people here understand that. But it seems like you can't grasp why GM putting out a car that you basically need to make $500,000 a year to afford would feel like a let down to a lot of people.
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Ok but that's not my point. My point is that you and Twisty and others are basically saying: "you asked for a Z/28. We gave it to you. It's really fast and it costs a lot of money. Can't afford it? Too bad, get lost."

My position: Chevy guys, they're salt of the earth normal people. And I get it when you say the Z/28 is pure and true to the heritage and all that. I think most people here understand that. But it seems like you can't grasp why GM putting out a car that you basically need to make $500,000 a year to afford would feel like a let down to a lot of people.
Same here. People have been asking, "Where's the Z-28?" since 2010. They unveil it now and 99.9% of the people asking, can't get one. Wuh...wuuuuuhhhhhhh!
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #150
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Depending on how you look at it, the original Z-28 RPO was not a $3-400 package, it was much more like $700 added to an otherwise under $2500 car. By the time you got everything that was mandatory on the car it was $3700ish without any RS stuff or deluxe interior..I also typed those prices from memory without looking up the sticker pic I have posted here

That was alot of money when you could buy new cars for $1995 all day long

I'm completely with Hylton and Twisty on this one

Here's a sticker..ever see a 1st Gen Z-28 without posi, 4-speed, power brakes? These prices are added to the base V8 Camaro price also, not a 6 cylinder 3 speed
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Same here. People have been asking, "Where's the Z-28?" since 2010. They unveil it now and 99.9% of the people asking, can't get one. Wuh...wuuuuuhhhhhhh!
Not just any ppl, the regular joes chevy fans. I can bet 80% of these cars will be bought up by those that DIDN'T ask for it. That's the problem I see.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:33 PM   #152
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Depending on how you look at it, the original Z-28 RPO was not a $3-400 package, it was much more like $700 added to an otherwise under $2500 car. By the time you got everything that was mandatory on the car it was $3700ish without any RS stuff or deluxe interior..I also typed those prices from memory without looking up the sticker pic I have posted here

That was alot of money when you could buy new cars for $1995 all day long

I'm completely with Hylton and Twisty on this one

Here's a sticker..ever see a 1st Gen Z-28 without posi, 4-speed, power brakes? These prices are added to the base V8 Camaro price also, not a 6 cylinder 3 speed
I see a base price of $2,700 and a final price, after options, of $3,800. $1,100 difference. Roughly a 40% increase over the base model. Take a $35,000 SS, add 40% and you get $49,000. Hey, it is what it is.
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I see a base price of $2,700 and a final price, after options, of $3,800. $1,100 difference. Roughly a 40% increase over the base model. Take a $35,000 SS, add 40% and you get $49,000. Hey, it is what it is.
That's be ideal wouldn't it? Nahhh lets mark it with 110-120% increase because so many asked for it. Ah yes. Now were talking
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