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Old 03-28-2013, 12:32 PM   #151
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Same here. People have been asking, "Where's the Z-28?" since 2010. They unveil it now and 99.9% of the people asking, can't get one. Wuh...wuuuuuhhhhhhh!
Not just any ppl, the regular joes chevy fans. I can bet 80% of these cars will be bought up by those that DIDN'T ask for it. That's the problem I see.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #152
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Depending on how you look at it, the original Z-28 RPO was not a $3-400 package, it was much more like $700 added to an otherwise under $2500 car. By the time you got everything that was mandatory on the car it was $3700ish without any RS stuff or deluxe interior..I also typed those prices from memory without looking up the sticker pic I have posted here

That was alot of money when you could buy new cars for $1995 all day long

I'm completely with Hylton and Twisty on this one

Here's a sticker..ever see a 1st Gen Z-28 without posi, 4-speed, power brakes? These prices are added to the base V8 Camaro price also, not a 6 cylinder 3 speed
I see a base price of $2,700 and a final price, after options, of $3,800. $1,100 difference. Roughly a 40% increase over the base model. Take a $35,000 SS, add 40% and you get $49,000. Hey, it is what it is.
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I see a base price of $2,700 and a final price, after options, of $3,800. $1,100 difference. Roughly a 40% increase over the base model. Take a $35,000 SS, add 40% and you get $49,000. Hey, it is what it is.
That's be ideal wouldn't it? Nahhh lets mark it with 110-120% increase because so many asked for it. Ah yes. Now were talking
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You tell people to "shut up" and that they are "borderline trolling", well you DEFINITELY are. This forum is for people to express their opinions, just because you don't agree, doesn't make anyone else wrong.
I think there are folks that were just blindsided by this. If you were saving and waiting for a Z/28 and then find out it's just a track car it's a bit of a disappointment. There's no point in even discussing the price.

I'm not a fan of Mustangs and could stand to get a new car. I was waiting for this announcement for 2 years. If you're happy with this version of the Z/28, good for you.
If I feel like GM just took the Z/28 badge and threw it in the mud, that's my opinion.I'm not happy about it at all. There's nothing I can do about it, I just have to find another vehicle that CAN be a daily driver.
NO they picked it up out of the mud and polished it to a gleaming finish. This IS a Z/28. What all you guys are asking for is either an SS, 1LE or a ZL1.

For years we faithful Z/28 guys have been hammered that all we wanted was a badge, and we would say it's the car that made the name we want. This car deserves the Z/28 badge, therefore I want it.
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I already did.
http://www.oldride.com/library/1969_...et_camaro.html

This was a car that you could drive on the road.
Refer to the options and the PRICE.
To go from stock to Z/28, the price of the car did not increase 50+ percent.

It is what it is. GM apparently has a niche audience that they want to cater to.
Posting a link to a website isn't an elaboration... do your homework.

..... You've never driven one, have you.

Have you ever driven anything that had fat tires and manual steering? How about a manual clutch that was so stout it made you walk in circles? Or a transmission that would sing as you revved? Yes. Yes I have. The Z/28 wasn't a cushy street car...

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The Z-28 was a $450 option on the Camaro in 1969. It's now (roughly) a $30,000 upgraded trim level. I'm not bitching, it's just not for everybody.
In the 60's options were like a Burger King menu... You could have it your way. It's not like that anymore.

Go back and price the 1st gen with 4 wheel disk brakes, twin carbs, posi, etc..... THAT'S what they did with the 2014...
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:45 PM   #156
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The regulations now a days don't want avg guy to race.
Not sure what you mean by that. It's never been easier to get on a track than it is now.
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No.

the original z28 was a track oriented car, so why not reproduce it as such?

My only thought on this is that if this car is that banana's can we imagine what the next gen z06 will look like??? If this car got this type of reaction their gonna have to hand out anti-anxiety pills before the reveal.
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Not sure what you mean by that. It's never been easier to get on a track than it is now.
That's true. But it doesn't mean GM should jack up the price to insure it doesn't make it to the track or be suitable for garage queens. Right? I mean stripped down it shouldn't cost what they're going to charge for it. Plain and simple.
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How about a show of hands from the old timers..... who remembers the 1st gen Z/28 as an economical alternative?
(not a real old timer, but old enough) It (the Z28) was the MOST expensive Camaro with available options. (Special back door order ZL1 not included)
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I already did.
http://www.oldride.com/library/1969_...et_camaro.html

This was a car that you could drive on the road.
Refer to the options and the PRICE.
To go from stock to Z/28, the price of the car did not increase 50+ percent.

It is what it is. GM apparently has a niche audience that they want to cater to.
Oh it did more than that. With all options it was on its way to $6K. more than double a base Camaro.
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Hand in air. Owned two first gens and tried to make the first one a daily driver at the ripe age of 23.

And Twisty is right...what I posted above does not include the exotic option still available. JL8 and cross ram and such. Those options mesh comparatively well with what we are seeing on the new Z...such as the high $ brakes Recaros and such
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Posting a link to a website isn't an elaboration... do your homework.

..... You've never driven one, have you.

Have you ever driven anything that had fat tires and manual steering? How about a manual clutch that was so stout it made you walk in circles? Or a transmission that would sing as you revved? Yes. Yes I have. The Z/28 wasn't a cushy street car...



In the 60's options were like a Burger King menu... You could have it your way. It's not like that anymore.

Go back and price the 1st gen with 4 wheel disk brakes, twin carbs, posi, etc..... THAT'S what they did with the 2014...
Yes, I drove a Gen 2 Z/28.
I'm not going to copy and paste the entire list of options from that website. I may be going out on a limb, but I assume you can read.
The 2014, fewer options, ridiculous pricing. It is what it is.
I was hoping for something impressive from Chevrolet, a performance vehicle without an insane price tag. This isn't it.
I'll either get a 2012, or buy a car from another manufacturer.
It was a long wait for absolutely nothing from my perspective.
If you're happy with it and have 70K to burn, more power to you.
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Ok but that's not my point. My point is that you and Twisty and others are basically saying: "you asked for a Z/28. We gave it to you. It's really fast and it costs a lot of money. Can't afford it? Too bad, get lost."

My position: Chevy guys, they're salt of the earth normal people. And I get it when you say the Z/28 is pure and true to the heritage and all that. I think most people here understand that. But it seems like you can't grasp why GM putting out a car that you basically need to make $500,000 a year to afford would feel like a let down to a lot of people.
No they're saying buy another Camaro you can afford! It's an "ORIGINAL" designed Z28, NOT the pretender model. The REAL thing (anything) always cost more.
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I'll be at CF5 so by all means, go right ahead and tell me to shut up then. Trolls hide behind masks, my mask stays off. No gimmicks here. What you do need to do is watch your mouth, and no that's not a threat that's me telling you what you will do.
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Yes, I drove a Gen 2 Z/28.
I'm not going to copy and paste the entire list of options from that website. I may be going out on a limb, but I assume you can read.
The 2014, fewer options, ridiculous pricing. It is what it is.
I was hoping for something impressive from Chevrolet, a performance vehicle without an insane price tag. This isn't it.
I'll either get a 2012, or buy a car from another manufacturer.
It was a long wait for absolutely nothing from my perspective.
If you're happy with it and have 70K to burn, more power to you.
You obviously didn't really want a Z/28. Why?, because this is what a REAL Z/28 is.

Buy a ZL1. It's AWESOME!
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Nope it's not for everyone. It's for collectors to say they have one in their garage. The regulations now a days don't want avg guy to race. So they bump up the price on their race ready cars to keep it at bay. My estimate? 1-5% of those Z-28s produced touch a track. The rest will touch dust in a garage. With a few occasionally joy riding it a little.
Racing is a lot more expensive now than it was in the late 60's. How about you take a car with 1960s tech and go try and road race with todays modern cars? Let us all know how that works out for you.

If you want a bargain priced racer that can be driven daily, buy a 1LE and stop complaining.
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New Z-28 WITH MOTOR AND VIN and warrantee... $68-70k sounds good to me
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That's true. But it doesn't mean GM should jack up the price to insure it doesn't make it to the track...
Unless they artificially limit supply they will make it to the track. Look at all the Z06s and other far more expensive cars you see at the track. Can't afford the Z28? Get a 1LE SS. The average driver can't even get close to a 1LE's limits on the track, let alone a Z28.
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You obviously didn't really want a Z/28. Why?, because this is what a REAL Z/28 is.

Buy a ZL1. It's AWESOME!
No, I waited 2 years because I can see the future and I just wanted to post in this thread.

It's what a Z/28 is since yesterday.
And that was the point of this thread, the discussion of : Do you think GM missed the ball my making the z/28 a track only car? Yes, by a long shot.

I don't understand why so many people around here get their panties in a bunch just because they don't agree with an opinion. I think some of you missed your medication this morning.
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No they're saying buy another Camaro you can afford! It's an "ORIGINAL" designed Z28, NOT the pretender model. The REAL thing (anything) always cost more.
We get it, it's the REAL thing. I already commented on the original window sticker at the top of this page. Again: Base=$2,700 After all options=$3,800 An increase of 40%. An increase of 40% on a $35k SS is $49k, not $70-75k as is expected of the new Z-28. What we're saying, for the last time: So MANY people have been asking for a Z-28 since 2010. Now, 99.9% of those people that asked, will NEVER get the chance to own one because of the limited production and presumed price. As I said, it is what it is; however, many will miss out. I would pay $50k for one, but that's about it.
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OK well after all the bitching I have done and reading and continued depression and disappointment, I have come to this same conclusion. So many wanted the LS7 in the car and the MPG's I would guess are going to be worse than the ZL1. If it was priced for any Joe Blow to purchase, since me included would love to, and many more would buy it just for the badge, GM's CAFE rating's would suffer tremendously. So all in all, the car is built to please a select few and the hallowed name is back so it may bring butt's to the dealerships, but I am saddened, jealous, disappointed and angry that I have saved, waited and waited and saved and I won't be able to get within a "tensa-Barriers" length to seeing one much less owning one in real life. Truly sad.
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That's true. But it doesn't mean GM should jack up the price to insure it doesn't make it to the track or be suitable for garage queens. Right? I mean stripped down it shouldn't cost what they're going to charge for it. Plain and simple.
I think you might be reading too much into this "stripped down" thing...I know it sounds ridiculous and bass-ackwards, but I truly believe that to change it to a stripper is more expensive....

...Unlike the 60's where you added items, and added expense, they just don't, won't, can't do it that way these days...They probably spent more time and expense figuring out how to remove items, than they would have cost to leave in...Numerous items that were once considered optional, have long been so taken for granted in the assembly process, that to undo them probably sent them back to the drawing board for a long, long time...These deleted items are money-makers for the company when they are included, but more of a night-mare to leave out...

...As crazy as it sounds, slam me if you want, but I think it's true....and why we will never see a pick and choose laundry list of options for cars ever again...
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No, I waited 2 years because I can see the future and I just wanted to post in this thread.

It's what a Z/28 is since yesterday.
And that was the point of this thread, the discussion of : Do you think GM missed the ball my making the z/28 a track only car? Yes, by a long shot.

I don't understand why so many people around here get their panties in a bunch just because they don't agree with an opinion. I think some of you missed your medication this morning.
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We get it, it's the REAL thing. I already commented on the original window sticker at the top of this page. Again: Base=$2,700 After all options=$3,800 An increase of 40%. An increase of 40% on a $35k SS is $49k, not $70-75k as is expected of the new Z-28. What we're saying, for the last time: So MANY people have been asking for a Z-28 since 2010. Now, 99.9% of those people that asked, will NEVER get the chance to own one because of the limited production and presumed price. As I said, it is what it is; however, many will miss out. I would pay $50k for one, but that's about it.
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OK well after all the bitching I have done and reading and continued depression and disappointment, I have come to this same conclusion. So many wanted the LS7 in the car and the MPG's I would guess are going to be worse than the ZL1. If it was priced for any Joe Blow to purchase, since me included would love to, and many more would buy it just for the badge, GM's CAFE rating's would suffer tremendously. So all in all, the car is built to please a select few and the hallowed name is back so it may bring butt's to the dealerships, but I am saddened, jealous, disappointed and angry that I have saved, waited and waited and saved and I won't be able to get within a "tensa-Barriers" length to seeing one much less owning one in real life. Truly sad.
Guys I here ya! It is more than I even expected and I know the original intent of the Z28. You can't fault GM for going back to their roots on this one. The Z28 was/is their Superstar Camaro and now they've thrown everything I mean everything at it. The "Car" made the name, why? Due to its capabilities based on its content formula. Unfortunately those things are more expensive than ever.
I get your math, the problem is now GM works on packages NOT options. And this package is beyond loaded. And I'm not worked up over anything just trying to explain things rationally to guys that obviously LOVE cool cars, but cool cars can be expensive.
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Agreed 100%. People talking about this car being in the neighborhood of $75k??? Camaro aficiandos have been asking for a Z-28 since the 2010's came out. Now GM brings it back as an overpriced (potentially), stripped down, track car. I think they're really limiting their market here. Remember the SS/R? Yikes!!!

You are absolutely right. We ARE limiting the market for this car. It is not for everyone.

I'm trying to decide exactly what the issues are here and I'm starting to believe it's because we have two schools of thought here:

The first school wants the Z/28 to go back to its roots. (Hint: did you note that the car is a "Z/28" and not a "Z28"??? -- go do your homework.......)

The second school wants a Z/28 (I should say in this instance "Z28" that can be built 15 bazillion different ways........)

We made a decision and we're sticking to it. The "Z/28" is a hallowed moniker that became 'less and less' to some people over the years.....

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....The good thing about this is these Z28's will be a rare car I don't think they will sell as well as the ZL1.

The Z/28 isn't meant to outsell the ZL1.
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