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Angrybird 12 · 03-28-2013, 07:35 PM

I would like to see the SS without the RS package and in different colors.... I also want to see the LS and LT models.
Right now I don't care for the RS package, but I didn't care for it before either...
Just wondering if that Chrome trim on the grille and headlights is just stuck on with 3m Tape. If so it would be easy to remove.

5thGenOwner · 03-28-2013, 07:40 PM

Here's my thoughts...

1st, I think they've had this 'refresh' planned for a LONG time. I'm thinking they even had it back in 2009 when they initially started production of the 5th gen. But, they new which design looked better, and unfortunately it wasn't the one that worked better on the track.

Therefore, for the first half+ of the generation GM went with the version that received so much attention & praise from being in the Transformer movies (the sure thing). And 2010-2013 that's exactly what they got... the tops sales spot (above Mustang) by selling the best looking design they had. But in turn, that means they couldn't really pull off a great track car with this design... not one that would do it justice.

So GM figured, late in the (5th) generation they could then do a 'refresh' and release the Camaro that was more track worthy, more track capable... and thus the return of the Z/28 (the one true track car).

Well done GM! They gave everyone what they wanted... we got the best looking Camaro ('10-'13) and the Z-Fanatics get their Z/28 that'll blow the doors off anything on pavement. But in the end, I think sales are going to drop considerably until the 6th generation comes out. And even then, the 6th gen is going to be a roll of the dice with something completely new.

Final thoughts...

Thanks for the Z, but none of us are going to be able to afford it... you should have just left the SS and below trim the same as before (if you wanted to keep the top sales).

Thrillz · 03-28-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenOwner

Thanks for the Z, but none of us are going to be able to afford it... you should have just left the SS and below trim the same as before (if you wanted to keep the top sales).

This

FenwickHockey65 · 03-28-2013, 07:43 PM

In between. The front end is a big improvement IMO but the rear is way off.

90503 · 03-28-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

In between. The front end is a big improvement IMO but the rear is way off.

On the rear, that license plate area seems very wide (too wide, I'd say)...wondering if that's for Euro plates? Will US cars be the same?...No biggie, just curious...

Angrybird 12 · 03-28-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

On the rear, that license plate area seems very wide (too wide, I'd say)...wondering if that's for Euro plates? Will US cars be the same?...No biggie, just curious...

Yes one fascia will work world wide now, saves costs for design, tooling and production. The early Camaros had to have both a different fasica and diffuser, that is also the reason for the raised diffuser too. It will have to be different for European markets to allow for the tow hook access and rear fog light. Instead of having to replace two parts for the euro market now they only have to replace one. Now just install the lower fascia, pop in euro spec tail lights and the mandatory rear fog light and you have the euro spec rear end.

z28-conv · 03-28-2013, 08:31 PM

My 2 cents. I personally think the refresh looks great!! Front,back, the car as a whole. Just my opinion. I also would like to say that the Camaro has changed alot in five generations. To be honest throughout its history the Camaro has never really had any distinctive features that have clearly carried over from one generation to the next. If you look at a Corvette over its history , there are some characteristics I.E. taillights that up until the 7th gen have been pretty consistent. So I think those who really love the look of the 5th gen Camaro (me included) don't expect these kind of changes. I answered your question in the first sentence but I think this is why it is 50/50 in the responses.

Bomino · 03-28-2013, 08:35 PM

Scott is dead on with his 50/50/80 rule so far...

Dtowndog420 · 03-28-2013, 08:42 PM

I like the front end, but the show lights, that horrid ugly half ass new orange hides the lines and makes the front look round. Oh and let's not forget that stupid chrome strip WTF. The Z's paint shows the lines and makes the front look really good. The RS package, instead of making it look better it does the opposite. The Z's headlights, tails and rear diffuser are a hundred times better. A diffuser swap is a must do.

hgmjbkfm · 03-28-2013, 08:54 PM

I think the look of the 14s is pretty nice.

Bonanza7 · 03-28-2013, 08:58 PM

Nice looking upgrade...front and back

Angrybird 12 · 03-28-2013, 09:01 PM

Looks like the tide is turning, is it starting to grow on people or do they just now realize there is going to be more than one look to choose from?

blackswan · 03-28-2013, 09:03 PM

I have to say, the only color we've seen is this new Red. I have a sense it will look much better in black!

At least the area inset for the license plate won't be two tone, which looks somewhat cheesy to me. Black will make the front pop much nicer and I think the chrome strip will actually look good on black.

90503 · 03-28-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Looks like the tide is turning, is it starting to grow on people or do they just now realize there is going to be more than one look to choose from?

Perhaps, but I think more folks are chiming in who don't watch the "Kathy and Michael Show"...lol

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03-28-2013, 07:35 PM	#1779
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	I would like to see the SS without the RS package and in different colors.... I also want to see the LS and LT models. Right now I don't care for the RS package, but I didn't care for it before either... Just wondering if that Chrome trim on the grille and headlights is just stuck on with 3m Tape. If so it would be easy to remove. __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

03-28-2013, 07:40 PM	#1780
5thGenOwner Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,197	Here's my thoughts... 1st, I think they've had this 'refresh' planned for a LONG time. I'm thinking they even had it back in 2009 when they initially started production of the 5th gen. But, they new which design looked better, and unfortunately it wasn't the one that worked better on the track. Therefore, for the first half+ of the generation GM went with the version that received so much attention & praise from being in the Transformer movies (the sure thing). And 2010-2013 that's exactly what they got... the tops sales spot (above Mustang) by selling the best looking design they had. But in turn, that means they couldn't really pull off a great track car with this design... not one that would do it justice. So GM figured, late in the (5th) generation they could then do a 'refresh' and release the Camaro that was more track worthy, more track capable... and thus the return of the Z/28 (the one true track car). Well done GM! They gave everyone what they wanted... we got the best looking Camaro ('10-'13) and the Z-Fanatics get their Z/28 that'll blow the doors off anything on pavement. But in the end, I think sales are going to drop considerably until the 6th generation comes out. And even then, the 6th gen is going to be a roll of the dice with something completely new. Final thoughts... Thanks for the Z, but none of us are going to be able to afford it... you should have just left the SS and below trim the same as before (if you wanted to keep the top sales). __________________

03-28-2013, 07:43 PM	#1782
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	In between. The front end is a big improvement IMO but the rear is way off. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

03-28-2013, 08:54 PM	#1788
hgmjbkfm Drives: audi Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ctr Posts: 7	I think the look of the 14s is pretty nice. __________________

03-28-2013, 08:31 PM	#1785
z28-conv Drives: '97 z-28 conv. 2013 BRM ZL1 conv. Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 765 View My Garage	My 2 cents. I personally think the refresh looks great!! Front,back, the car as a whole. Just my opinion. I also would like to say that the Camaro has changed alot in five generations. To be honest throughout its history the Camaro has never really had any distinctive features that have clearly carried over from one generation to the next. If you look at a Corvette over its history , there are some characteristics I.E. taillights that up until the 7th gen have been pretty consistent. So I think those who really love the look of the 5th gen Camaro (me included) don't expect these kind of changes. I answered your question in the first sentence but I think this is why it is 50/50 in the responses.

03-28-2013, 08:35 PM	#1786
Bomino Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Nurburgring Posts: 104	Scott is dead on with his 50/50/80 rule so far...

03-28-2013, 08:42 PM	#1787
Dtowndog420 Drives: SBM 09 G8 GT/RH 15 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas,Tx Posts: 258	I like the front end, but the show lights, that horrid ugly half ass new orange hides the lines and makes the front look round. Oh and let's not forget that stupid chrome strip WTF. The Z's paint shows the lines and makes the front look really good. The RS package, instead of making it look better it does the opposite. The Z's headlights, tails and rear diffuser are a hundred times better. A diffuser swap is a must do.

03-28-2013, 08:58 PM	#1789
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	Nice looking upgrade...front and back

03-28-2013, 09:01 PM	#1790
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	Looks like the tide is turning, is it starting to grow on people or do they just now realize there is going to be more than one look to choose from? __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

03-28-2013, 09:03 PM	#1791
blackswan Drives: 2012 2LT/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northeast Posts: 1,443	I have to say, the only color we've seen is this new Red. I have a sense it will look much better in black! At least the area inset for the license plate won't be two tone, which looks somewhat cheesy to me. Black will make the front pop much nicer and I think the chrome strip will actually look good on black.