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Old 03-28-2013, 10:44 PM   #630
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I believe your line up makes sense. It was discussed in amongst the Z/28 threads for years. Depending upon your "perspective" the ZL1 is King. There will never be a Z28 vert.
Yeah these comparisons are not new. By king I mean max horsepower, max technology, max comfort beast of a car (also not necessarily cheap). This is a lot like the arguments about the ZR1 and Z06. Many said the Z06 was the true drivers car and the better platform to track. The ZR1 was just brute power and technology that could move quick around a track.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:49 PM   #631
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Yeah these comparisons are not new. By king I mean max horsepower, max technology, max comfort beast of a car (also not necessarily cheap). This is a lot like the arguments about the ZL1 and Z06. Many said the Z06 was the true drivers car and the better platform to track. The ZR1 was just brute power and technology that could move quick around a track.
Absolutely correct. It's all in ones point of view.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:22 PM   #632
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SO...how do I get those Recaro seats for my 1LE?
Took the words out of my mouth!!
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:50 PM   #633
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I hope it doesn't matter that the ZL1 raises $15,000 in price with the cost of the LS9 and required upgrades. The Engine alone is the price of a base Camaro.
That would probably be about 15,000 tacked on the now price. 1/4 shy of 100,000 nah
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:23 AM   #634
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Well the Camaro itself would not exist if not for the secretary special (Mustang). But now c'mon you know the Boss would have never existed without the Z28 being made first.
First time around, yep. Now the favour has been returned. Gotta love Ford/GM rivalry. Also admire how GM waited so long in the C5 life cycle to introduce this car. Gave the real fans the chance to save up.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:28 AM   #635
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And cell phones should be totally banned from the Z/28, in this beast you don't need ANY DISTRACTIONS...
You won't even feel the difference between the ZL1 and Z28 unless you have a stop watch. Maybe no Camaro should have options except the V6, if you can't drive with the A/C and stereo on at the same time.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:26 AM   #636
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Has anyone confirmed the color on this show car? Is it white diamond or just a matte white wrap? And I see there is a lot of complaints about the wheel opening moldings but with a 19" wheel and tire combo they had to close that gap some how.
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You won't even feel the difference between the ZL1 and Z28 unless you have a stop watch. Maybe no Camaro should have options except the V6, if you can't drive with the A/C and stereo on at the same time.
I bet you'll feel a huge difference. One is a NA car with Carbon Ceramic brakes and the other is a very fast Supercharged GT. Guess which will stop and go as if its an on/off switch.
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Looks like the HUD has been removed as well.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:35 PM   #639
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First time around, yep. Now the favour has been returned. Gotta love Ford/GM rivalry. Also admire how GM waited so long in the C5 life cycle to introduce this car. Gave the real fans the chance to save up.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:37 PM   #640
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You won't even feel the difference between the ZL1 and Z28 unless you have a stop watch. Maybe no Camaro should have options except the V6, if you can't drive with the A/C and stereo on at the same time.
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I bet you'll feel a huge difference. One is a NA car with Carbon Ceramic brakes and the other is a very fast Supercharged GT. Guess which will stop and go as if its an on/off switch.
Yes, They will feel VERY VERY VERY different. Ones a GT car and one is a racecar. I'll let you figure it out.
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You won't even feel the difference between the ZL1 and Z28 unless you have a stop watch. Maybe no Camaro should have options except the V6, if you can't drive with the A/C and stereo on at the same time.
I bet you will, I will say the Z/28 will ride like a race car all the time while a ZL1 will ride like a cruiser depending on what setting you choose on the mag ride. You will definitely notice...
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Has anyone confirmed the color on this show car? Is it white diamond or just a matte white wrap? And I see there is a lot of complaints about the wheel opening moldings but with a 19" wheel and tire combo they had to close that gap some how.
I heard it won't be available, at least not at first...Summit white is the only white listed.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:40 PM   #643
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WHAT? NO CUP TIRES????

I'm just wondering what the Boss 302 crowd over at the Ford camp is thinking just now? I suspect they're saying, "Yeah, yeah....just wait til we get the 2015 Mustang, we'll show them there Camaro guys somethin'"! Well, they will have a lot of catchin up to do.

I'm trying to figure how I'm going to afford one of these!
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:00 AM   #644
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I bet you will, I will say the Z/28 will ride like a race car all the time while a ZL1 will ride like a cruiser depending on what setting you choose on the mag ride. You will definitely notice...
I'm not talking about the ride, I know the Z/28 isn't going to ride worth a sh!! compared to the ZL1. I'm just saying that the average person isn't going to feel the difference between the two when it comes to acceleration on the street. They are both very fast cars, specially to someone with a V6.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:22 AM   #645
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Yes, They will feel VERY VERY VERY different. Ones a GT car and one is a racecar. I'll let you figure it out.
I was talking about accelerate on the street. I know they are different cars, one is a car that nobody is really going to want to use in the real world when they can buy so many fast cars that aren't striped down.
Since it is a year out try not putting your tops down, don't use your air, no stereo, and put junk tires so you have a lot road noise, drive it all summer and tell me you would still want this car. The ZL1 and the C7 Stingray are so close in performance, why give everything else up? If you want a track car buy a used Z06 for less money. When it comes to spending real money, not just saying on Camaro5 that are going to get one, very few people will buy this car.

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WHAT? NO CUP TIRES????

I'm just wondering what the Boss 302 crowd over at the Ford camp is thinking just now? I suspect they're saying, "Yeah, yeah....just wait til we get the 2015 Mustang, we'll show them there Camaro guys somethin'"! Well, they will have a lot of catchin up to do.

I'm trying to figure how I'm going to afford one of these!
The Boss 302 guys are thinking "nice car, enjoy guys", after all why should we have all the fun.
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