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Old 03-29-2013, 09:57 AM   #276
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I'm ok with what they did with the Z/28...There are plenty of streetable, dd Camaros to be had...I been thinking about all the unhappy thoughts, and if anything troubles me, it's that if they would just make that damn LS7 engine as an option for the SS or the 1LE, lol, then how they built the Z/28 would not be an issue for many...

...I'm glad they built the Z/28 as the monster that they did...but give the rest of us a chance to have an LS7...Don't think that would hurt the Z/28's mojo with all it's other fantastic track features one bit...

...Just a thought, dunno if any others feel that way...
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:03 AM   #277
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Like I said a year or two ago, I knew if they brought the Z/28 back there would be many that would love it but more wouldn't because its not their idea what a Z/28 should be.
Reflecting back on all the changes to the 2014 models many don't like it because the changes are not what they wanted to see. It's human nature.

But its Chevys ball and they can play any game they want with it. You can play along with them or find something else to play with.
If everyone finds something else to play with, Chevy would be out of business...
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:08 AM   #278
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Overall, I think GM missed the mark on the design of this car (Z/28), even with the intention of making it primarily a track car. Most previous Z's were street worthy cars (i.e. with daily immenities INCLUDED). Deleting things to make a car lighter, just doesn't sell cars. People want all the necessitites & comforts for everyday driving, along with the performance for the track, if you choose to do that (job well done on the current ZL1).

GM should not dictate how WE will drive this car, that's the owners choice, afterall, we're the ones putting out the BIG BUCKS!
Remember who your customers are, we're everyday people, NOT race car drivers!

To hear the Z is going to cost more than the ZL1 makes ABSOLUTELY no sense at all. I would soon buy the ZL1, before even considering the Z/28; after this debut, I would soon consider upgrading to a pre 2014 ZL1.

In conclusion, I hope that GM really steps back and considers these public reviews, takes them seriously, and makes better choices for the 6th Gen Camaro. If they screw up the 6th Gen design, we can kiss the Camaro name good-bye...this time FOREVER!
Please quit copy/pasting your response in EVERY STINKING THREAD!!!

You're wrong on every point (my opinion). Time will prove who's right
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:20 AM   #279
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Why can't I have a V6 Z/28 price tag??










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Old 03-29-2013, 10:53 AM   #280
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GM could throw the Z/28 name plate on the ZL1 and these guys would still cry about how they can't have one..
I always get a kick out of these forums when someone post an opinion based question and when certain people dont agree with what others say they are said to be complaining and whining
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #281
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So CHEVY basically merged these 3 concepts...

http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2010-camaro_ssx_concept/

http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2008-camaro_ls7_concept/

http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2008-camaro_gs_racecar_concept/
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #282
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Time will tell the story! GM did not build this car....without considering the market demand. Very interesting ....to bring the Z 28 out as a track purpose car only.....when so many were expecting a street/track auto. There must be more coming down the line to satisfy the masses!
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:51 AM   #283
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Time will tell the story! GM did not build this car....without considering the market demand. Very interesting ....to bring the Z 28 out as a track purpose car only.....when so many were expecting a street/track auto. There must be more coming down the line to satisfy the masses!

Wait a few more years. Next up, the Camaro Rally Sport !
I don't mean a RS badge, it'll have big huge RALLY SPORT badges on the car.
Made just for World Rally Championship racing, it'll be AWD, upgraded suspension, but lighter to compete with the MINI, Ford Focus, etc. No A/C, radio, etc but you do get use of a navigator to read maps and tell you where you are for 3 months after purchase. For the low price of 80K, you can try to drive it to work. The only catch is, it wasn't made for asphalt. Good luck.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:00 PM   #284
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I'm sure this has been said before in the thread, but I'll say it anyway.

As impressed as I am with the Z/28's power, I'm disappointed in how they're pricing it. I'm fine with GM creating a very expensive, minimalist, barely street-legal track superstar Camaro, but let it be a regular production version of their COPO, not a Z/28. That name should be reserved for something designed to go up against the Boss 302, and although the Z/28 certainly achieves that performance-wise, the Boss is a WAY better deal for far more buyers - and is still a dammed fine track machine capable of feats beyond the skill of many buyers of either car.

For all the people on here who are hardcore believers in sticking to the heritage of the Camaro like it's Holy Writ, I'm surprised how the glare of a mighty LS7 has blinded them to the part of that heritage where the Z/28 was supposed to be a great track/enthusiast car as well as halfway affordable, and even sort of livable as a daily driver. This Z/28 does one of those things very well, but the others very poorly. I'm sure GM could have figured out a way to get the others in there too while keeping the price around $50k - again, competitive with the Boss - but they didn't, and it's a shame.

I also fear that having the Z/28 as top-dog will interfere with upgrading the ZL1 to keep up with the GT500 as Ford inevitably upgrades that.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:17 PM   #285
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Look people this is getting just plan stupid....The Z/28 is not competing against the ZL1 for sales. That would be like saying the SS is competing against the V-6 cars....

Plan and simple stop bitching about the cost. I can't afford one either and I'm not complaining. Would I like to have one dam right.

If you cant find a car to drive in the current line up then you need to look somewhere else. Maybe Honda or Toyota makes a nice car for you...

I mean come on.

My 8 month old son whines less then you people........
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:36 PM   #286
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if it was me, I would have not done the 1LE and instead had the z28 replace that option with the same equipment plus a ls7... make it a $7-10k option like the Laguna Seca Boss and there's your superior answer to the Mustang...
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:48 PM   #287
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if it was me, I would have not done the 1LE and instead had the z28 replace that option with the same equipment plus a ls7... make it a $7-10k option like the Laguna Seca Boss and there's your superior answer to the Mustang...
It would be more like 20k option. The LS7 is 15K then add the 3-4k for the 1LE package. Which puts it in the ZL1 price range
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:59 PM   #288
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After reading a few posts - I simply came here to respond to a couple of them because I realized that too many people don't understand what the original intent of the Z/28 really was.......:

go back and read the history of WHY the Z28 was introduced in the first place.

Don't 'guess' and don't try to 'interpret' - because some of us were actually around back then! (I didn't mean that as a shot -- but.......)

Tidbit: the 1967 Z28 didn't have Z28 anywhere on the car - it was simply an option code (RPO) that essentially said: "This is the car we're building to compete in SCCA's Trans Am racing series. All others beware!" It was not meant to be a daily driver - and this new Z/28 is not meant to be a daily driver. it will "separate the men from the boys" so to speak....... If you want comfort -- this is not the car for you.....


We stayed true to the original intent. Want a stereo radio? Go buy a ZL1 or a
1LE or an SS and make mods.

The Z/28 is essentially a race car.

Sorry that some of you don't like that.....but we have to make hard decisions and I stand behind this Z/28 'til the cows come home.

I don't like to be this abrupt - but I'm operating on very little sleep - it's been a long week -- and frankly my patience is running a bit thin with people who don't understand what a Z/28 really is meant to be........


(....oh - and for those of you who are nay-sayers? I wish you could have heard the remarks about the new Z/28 - people at the unveil were blown away.......)
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It would be more like 20k option. The LS7 is 15K then add the 3-4k for the 1LE package. Which puts it in the ZL1 price range
you're referring to catalog pricing which doesn't reflect factory pricing..
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:34 PM   #290
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It would be more like 20k option. The LS7 is 15K then add the 3-4k for the 1LE package. Which puts it in the ZL1 price range
so you'd rather them make a car that is more expensive than the ZL1?
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:50 PM   #291
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I'm sure this has been said before in the thread, but I'll say it anyway.

As impressed as I am with the Z/28's power, I'm disappointed in how they're pricing it. I'm fine with GM creating a very expensive, minimalist, barely street-legal track superstar Camaro, but let it be a regular production version of their COPO, not a Z/28. That name should be reserved for something designed to go up against the Boss 302, and although the Z/28 certainly achieves that performance-wise, the Boss is a WAY better deal for far more buyers - and is still a dammed fine track machine capable of feats beyond the skill of many buyers of either car.

For all the people on here who are hardcore believers in sticking to the heritage of the Camaro like it's Holy Writ, I'm surprised how the glare of a mighty LS7 has blinded them to the part of that heritage where the Z/28 was supposed to be a great track/enthusiast car as well as halfway affordable, and even sort of livable as a daily driver. This Z/28 does one of those things very well, but the others very poorly. I'm sure GM could have figured out a way to get the others in there too while keeping the price around $50k - again, competitive with the Boss - but they didn't, and it's a shame.

I also fear that having the Z/28 as top-dog will interfere with upgrading the ZL1 to keep up with the GT500 as Ford inevitably upgrades that.
buy the 1LE
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:25 PM   #292
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If everyone finds something else to play with, Chevy would be out of business...
What I mean is if that is not the toy for you find another toy....
Chevy has plenty of toys in its toy box to play with. You don't have to go anywhere else....
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:09 PM   #293
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So lets break it down. You basically have 2 schools of thought.
-the guys that know and understand what the Z/28 badge REALLY means and the ones that just want a badge. The beauty is that there is a camaro for everyone! I think the new Z/28 is perfect. I dont get caught up on badges like a lot here. The point of the Z/28 badge was racing, not showing off. Its the guys that never had a real Z/28 or understand the history of the Z/28 that are bitching because they just want to say they have a Z/28 like they did in high school.
For all the complainers/posers, you can still buy the Z/28 badge at your local Chevy dealer and put it all over your car if it will make you feel "cool"
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:12 PM   #294
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For all the complainers/posers, you can still buy the Z/28 badge at your local Chevy dealer and put it all over your car if it will make you feel "cool"
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I think they did an amazing job, wouldn't change anything for now. Until I can actually get in one I wont know if they missed something. I have the ZL1 and now I want a Z28
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:23 PM   #296
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I feel the Z28 falls between the ZL1 and Copo Camaro. As we all know the COPO is a limited production car starting at $90,000 I believe. And is not street legal like the Z28 will be. I think GM is doing a great job with the performance car line up, it just keeps getting better!
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I am going to borrow this, if you don't mind Scott.

I am making this my anthem. In fact, I am going to make a banner with that phrase big enough for (insert names here because I guess we're not allowed to get too political on the forum, but we all know who I'm talking about) to see from their office in that building with the dome on top and that other building that starts with the word white and ends with the word house.
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Maybe we could just cut the power off to all the environmentalists houses and take their cars away and give them a bicycle....
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Anyone have an Original 67 Z/28 want to put it up against a 2014 Z/28 in a comparison test?
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:03 PM   #300
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It was simply a $385 option in 1967. Only 602 were produced the first yr. in today's times minimum of 10000 should be produced regardless of whether or not that many are ordered. If its a 1 yr manufactured car, I see no more than 1500 produced because of price ordered. Back in '67, they may have been race cars, but they were sedans which meant they were reliable on the street.

$60000+ garage statues they'll be. They should've replaced the 1LE rather than make it what it is today IMO.

As for what fbod said about voting out our elected officials? That's just a crock of you know what. Voting is non existent to public. Everyone knows this. No matter who you vote for its been already decided who wins elections. But that's a diff story.
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