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Old 03-29-2013, 01:19 PM   #43
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Why couldn't GM just give us all what we REALLY WANTED?
The 1LE is already an extremely capable track car, couldn't the LS7 be dropped in there and made available to us for around 50?

No need going to great lenghts to make the Z-28 a "track" car. No one was thinking ceramic brakes until yesterday because no one was asking for them.
I'm with you!

Personally, I was hoping for a 1SS based 1LE with an LS7 and weight savings.....2 out of 3 isn't bad I guess

But as far as the carbon ceramic brakes???? I really don't see the point in making them standard on the Z28....make them an option like on the Z06.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:46 PM   #44
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The Z/28 was not about straight line speed, it was about cornering. The 302 engine was not a choice by GM, it was required by the Trans Am racing series. The LS7 in the Z/28 is acceptable because the LS7 is built for racing and there is no displacement cap so why not go big?
i'm simply making the point of people saying honor the heritage of the name. IMO if you are going to do that don't give it an engine another Camaro only received

It'd be amazing to see them offer the LS7 in a 1LE. Hell if I had the money, I'd order a new 1LE from one of the dealerships back east and have them install an LS7 to satisfy my happiness
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It would be really nice if it was an option for the 1LE.
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Agreed, the Z28 was supposed to be between the 1LE and ZL1,

Now it's a trailer queen.
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Why couldn't GM just give us all what we REALLY WANTED?
The 1LE is already an extremely capable track car, couldn't the LS7 be dropped in there and made available to us for around 50?

No need going to great lenghts to make the Z-28 a "track" car. No one was thinking ceramic brakes until yesterday because no one was asking for them.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:07 PM   #47
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Really? I seriously doubt everyone that wanted a stripped a down LS7 camaro will be getting one. I for one wanted it. I won't be getting it. Not at the price they're probably asking. Ill look for used in a few yrs if they don't limit the number like assholes so only cork sniffers buy them.
GTR's are everywhere, and follow a similar formula to the Z/28. Z/28's will do fine, there are enough guys making a ton of money that will love towing these on an aluminum open trailer behind their matching paint Denali to HPDE's.

I'd buy one if I could convince myself it was justifiable.
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i'm simply making the point of people saying honor the heritage of the name. IMO if you are going to do that don't give it an engine another Camaro only received

It'd be amazing to see them offer the LS7 in a 1LE. Hell if I had the money, I'd order a new 1LE from one of the dealerships back east and have them install an LS7 to satisfy my happiness
The 302 was simply to comply with rules. I'm sure if they could have used the ZL1 427, they would have.

Cars can evolve without changing the core spirit of the car unless you believe the Camaro should be running a stick axle on leaf springs with a carbed, cast iron V8 with drum brakes.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:19 PM   #49
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I only pointed out times because I've seen on this site and other sites people saying "oh the top dog is coming back out" and I've been meaning to post up no the z28 wasn't the top dog, the SS396 was faster. And the engine option was for the people saying GM is paying heritage to the past. I never agreed with the fact the current ZL1 didn't come with a 427 like in 69 and I think I spoke with one of the big dealerships back east that customize 5th gens about this right when it was released. Just my .02 though

My route is build a car to play with the big boys for 1/2 of what they are spending
But if I were to buy a 5th gen it would either be a 13 1LE or 13ZL1 since i don't like the 14's at all :(
Apples n oranges.

A high revving SB belongs in the Z/28 and that's what both the 1Gen and 5Gen have. The Z/28 is/was a roadracer. Yet performed great in the 1/4 mile as well. Those stats you put up don't tell the whole story as in rear gearing. You need to explore a little deeper.
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when i get time tonight after work i will lol
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Agreed, the Z28 was supposed to be between the 1LE and ZL1,

Now it's a trailer queen.
My sentiments as well. Make the Carbon Ceramic brakes an option like on the C6 Z06 to keep the price down and I'm sure Chevy would sell quite a few of them, even if we had to tick the box for A/C and put another 1 (or 3) speakers in it ourselves. I'd be all over it.

But if it comes in more expensive than the ZL1 and has brakes that are more expensive to replace than tires, the vast majority of people who will buy them are collectors who can afford to buy a car to simply add to their collection and rarely (if ever) drive it, or those truly "hard-core" track enthusiasts who probably trailer their cars to track events anyway.

.....and that's a damn shame
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Apples n oranges.

A high revving SB belongs in the Z/28 and that's what both the 1Gen and 5Gen have. The Z/28 is/was a roadracer. Yet performed great in the 1/4 mile as well. Those stats you put up don't tell the whole story as in rear gearing. You need to explore a little deeper.
ah i see some stuff . . .
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I like what GM did with the new "z/28" or "z28" or "trailer queen". I pray GM understands and will fill the 1LE --- (154hp)--- ZL1 performance gap by splitting the difference with a LS7 ~505hp option. Maybe call it the 1LE Stage II...

I'd like to see a 1LE Option with an LS7...

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0904gmhtp_427_ls7_2010_chevy_camaro_ss/





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So would I...but a Gen-6 (-300lb vs. current 1LE) LT1-powered version will be the answer for us very patient folks...
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:22 PM   #55
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All great points BUT no pricing available yet. So those who want one should be getting on their dealers' lists...NOW.

Maybe we should think of this as a street-legal COPO...and we know what happened, initially, to those prices...don't we?

BTW, I'm "on the list"...
I believe their will be plenty of z/28 to go around to whom so ever can afford 1. I'll play the wait and see game
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I believe their will be plenty of z/28 to go around to whom so ever can afford 1. I'll play the wait and see game
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