Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Emblempros
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Suspension / Brakes / Chassis

Suspension / Brakes / Chassis All suspension, brakes and chassis discussions.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-29-2013, 03:54 PM   #1
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Trailer a lowered Camaro???

Has anyone ever trailered a lowered Camaro? I am having the Pfadt Stage 4 installed and lowered approx 1" front and 1.25" rear. Was wondering if that will make thing difficult for me if I rented a car trailer from uHual. Anyone have any experience in this. Please help
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 04:26 PM   #2
JusticePete
 
JusticePete's Avatar
 
Drives: Camaro Justice
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 15,143
We trailer lowered cars frequently and they can be a challenge to get on a rental type trailer. Use the standard tricks of the trade boards, natural inclines and while attached to the tow vehicle raise the trailer front with the trailer jack.
__________________

Last edited by JusticePete; 03-29-2013 at 04:42 PM.
JusticePete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 04:28 PM   #3
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Awesome. Thanks Pete. Any recommended and/or mandatory strap down points? I guess I should just ask what are the strap down points.
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 04:42 PM   #4
JusticePete
 
JusticePete's Avatar
 
Drives: Camaro Justice
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 15,143
Use a double loop strap around the control arms to connect to your tie down straps and ratchet away.
__________________
JusticePete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 05:00 PM   #5
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Sweet. Thanks.
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 05:10 PM   #6
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: LS-3 429 TT with other odds-n-ends
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 13,326
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHall651 View Post
Sweet. Thanks.
You might also see if they have a trailer with the e-trac tie downs and ask for tire webs.... These wrap the tire rather than tying to suspension components.

I trailer my car a lot and it's lowered a lot...

Please note I have 6 foot long ramps and still built four foot long box's to add length and soften the angle for getting on and off the trailer...
Attached Images
  
__________________
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 05:31 PM   #7
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Yea i just found out that the one Im getting from uhaul uses the tire straps. But check this out. I had him see if that same trailer would show up in their system as capable of hauling a 2012 vette and it said yes. So if uhaul thinks a vette can be loaded onto it wouldn't you think a Camaro lowered 1" front and 1.25" rear could?
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 06:22 PM   #8
10aSSee D

 
10aSSee D's Avatar
 
Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: TN
Posts: 1,830
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS View Post
You might also see if they have a trailer with the e-trac tie downs and ask for tire webs.... These wrap the tire rather than tying to suspension components.

I trailer my car a lot and it's lowered a lot...

Please note I have 6 foot long ramps and still built four foot long box's to add length and soften the angle for getting on and off the trailer...
That is a nice trailer!!
__________________
MODS:

ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 740rwhp,685rwtq
10aSSee D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 08:44 PM   #9
mp51998

 
mp51998's Avatar
 
Drives: Black 2011 2SS/RS
Join Date: May 2011
Location: S. Texas
Posts: 1,276
I used a uhaul trailer just this month. Make sure you get the xtra wide trailer or cars don't fit. It doesn't mention that when you do an online reservation. Came with the tire web tie downs. Pulled behind my dodge 2500 and had no issues. Had to put 2x10 under the front tires tho as I am lowered 1.5 inches. If not I would have ripped off the rubber deflector on the front. Also had to use the angle of the drive way to make the angle of the ramps less steep. Other than that, piece of cake.
mp51998 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 09:28 PM   #10
bannonm

 
bannonm's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 VR
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,320
It's going to be a hit or miss with UHaul. I looked at those before buying my trailer and there was no way my car would fit without hitting. I'm lowered 1" and then another .35" because of tire height. My problem is the cats hitting the dove tail on the trailer. I had to buy the long Race Ramps to lessen the angle so my splitter didn't hit. You and I have the same exhaust, so you need to watch that as well.

Pete is right on with securing it using the control arms. Do not try and tie it down with the suspension as some have mentioned on this site. I loop my rachet tie-downs around the rear LCA and the front LCA. The car doesn't slide on long trips. The wheel tie-down would work well if the trailer is equipped to use them.

Here's my setup.
__________________
bannonm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 12:17 AM   #11
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: LS-3 429 TT with other odds-n-ends
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 13,326
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by bannonm View Post
It's going to be a hit or miss with UHaul. I looked at those before buying my trailer and there was no way my car would fit without hitting. I'm lowered 1" and then another .35" because of tire height. My problem is the cats hitting the dove tail on the trailer. I had to buy the long Race Ramps to lessen the angle so my splitter didn't hit. You and I have the same exhaust, so you need to watch that as well.

Pete is right on with securing it using the control arms. Do not try and tie it down with the suspension as some have mentioned on this site. I loop my rachet tie-downs around the rear LCA and the front LCA. The car doesn't slide on long trips. The wheel tie-down would work well if the trailer is equipped to use them.

Here's my setup.
Agreed on the suspension tie down... a bouncing car on the trailer allows for the tie downs to be shock loaded on and off as rough roads are encountered.... Tie to LCA's or use tire webs if the trailer is so equipped...
__________________
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 12:20 AM   #12
SSE 4 2SS
Boosted Moderator
 
SSE 4 2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: LS-3 429 TT with other odds-n-ends
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kyle Tx
Posts: 13,326
Send a message via AIM to SSE 4 2SS Send a message via Yahoo to SSE 4 2SS
Quote:
Originally Posted by 10aSSee D View Post
That is a nice trailer!!
Thanks... It works well for me...
__________________
SSE 4 2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 07:42 AM   #13
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Quote:
Originally Posted by mp51998 View Post
I used a uhaul trailer just this month. Make sure you get the xtra wide trailer or cars don't fit. It doesn't mention that when you do an online reservation. Came with the tire web tie downs. Pulled behind my dodge 2500 and had no issues. Had to put 2x10 under the front tires tho as I am lowered 1.5 inches. If not I would have ripped off the rubber deflector on the front. Also had to use the angle of the drive way to make the angle of the ramps less steep. Other than that, piece of cake.
Thanks for the info. That is good to hear. Can you explain the 2x10 a little more. Do you mean plywood that is 2" thick and 10" long? Also was there any room left to strap down other stuff to the deck of the trailer? I will have my 4 stock rims and tires, stock coilovers, and stock sway bars. Do you think there will be room for me to strap that stuff down too?
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 08:28 AM   #14
converted
 
Drives: 2012 45th anniversary
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Currently in Corpus Christi Texas
Posts: 363
We loaded my neighbors lowered car on a uhaul i i think he is 1.5" lowered. Only issue we had was the splitter trying to hit in very front of trailer where the indentions are for your tires to sit in. We cut some 2x12 pieces and put in there to hold the car up over the front of the trailer. Strapped her dwn she rode fine all the way from corpus christi to lethal in louisiana.
__________________
converted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 08:34 AM   #15
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Quote:
Originally Posted by converted View Post
We loaded my neighbors lowered car on a uhaul i i think he is 1.5" lowered. Only issue we had was the splitter trying to hit in very front of trailer where the indentions are for your tires to sit in. We cut some 2x12 pieces and put in there to hold the car up over the front of the trailer. Strapped her dwn she rode fine all the way from corpus christi to lethal in louisiana.
Was there additional room left on the trailer for the items in my previous post?
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 08:36 AM   #16
bannonm

 
bannonm's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 VR
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,320
Quote:
Originally Posted by JHall651 View Post
Thanks for the info. That is good to hear. Can you explain the 2x10 a little more. Do you mean plywood that is 2" thick and 10" long? Also was there any room left to strap down other stuff to the deck of the trailer? I will have my 4 stock rims and tires, stock coilovers, and stock sway bars. Do you think there will be room for me to strap that stuff down too?
He means a 2x10 piece of lumber. You know, like 2x4...

I have to do the same thing to raise the front wheels so the cats clear the top of the dove tail. In case you don't know what I mean by dove tail, it's the part of the trailer in the rear that angles down. Different trailers have different lengths to aid in getting the car on without scraping.
__________________
bannonm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2013, 08:42 AM   #17
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Quote:
Originally Posted by bannonm View Post
He means a 2x10 piece of lumber. You know, like 2x4...

I have to do the same thing to raise the front wheels so the cats clear the top of the dove tail. In case you don't know what I mean by dove tail, it's the part of the trailer in the rear that angles down. Different trailers have different lengths to aid in getting the car on without scraping.
Thank you. I didn't know what dove tail was, very helpful. I'll be sure to get some extra pieces of lumber.
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #18
Rick@MidwayPerformance
 
Drives: 2010 & 2012 Camaro SS
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 26
I use a set of drive on ramps and I back my truck up on them to reduce my break over point. This allows the splitter to clear and it wont high center when its half way up. I use the 12000 lbs rated ramps and then just toss them in the back of the truck.
Rick@MidwayPerformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 10:34 AM   #19
TBone
Negative Camber Junkie
 
TBone's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ChiTown, IL
Posts: 1,808
Quote:
Originally Posted by bannonm View Post
It's going to be a hit or miss with UHaul. I looked at those before buying my trailer and there was no way my car would fit without hitting. I'm lowered 1" and then another .35" because of tire height. My problem is the cats hitting the dove tail on the trailer. I had to buy the long Race Ramps to lessen the angle so my splitter didn't hit. You and I have the same exhaust, so you need to watch that as well.

Pete is right on with securing it using the control arms. Do not try and tie it down with the suspension as some have mentioned on this site. I loop my rachet tie-downs around the rear LCA and the front LCA. The car doesn't slide on long trips. The wheel tie-down would work well if the trailer is equipped to use them.

Here's my setup.
Damn B, you have a trailer too. I might have to come down to visit to see what else you are hiding.

T.
__________________
"Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen
The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same.
Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different.
I can't wait for my next
Track fix.
DA HAWKS used to OWN DA CUP!!!!!
TBone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 10:37 AM   #20
dekan513
chevy pride
 
dekan513's Avatar
 
Drives: 2ss/rs
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: pikeville ky
Posts: 2,146
use the slightest hump to pull ur back wheels of ur truck on and with the trailer still hooked up crank it down and throw the ass of the truck up in the air . this will lower the rear of the trailer. or if there is a nice lil hill or hump thats smooth and the right angle makes it alot easier.
__________________

check out ky speeds fb page https://www.facebook.com/kyspeed
dekan513 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 01:30 PM   #21
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Great suggestions and ideas guys. I think I will use a combination of a few. I have ramps to drive the front of the truck up on and plus I am going to get some 2x10's. I did just find out that the trailer I am renter only has front tire straps, now for the back I am just going to chain down the rear lower control arms as per suggested in this thread. Should I rap the lca with towels or anything?
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 02:30 PM   #22
dekan513
chevy pride
 
dekan513's Avatar
 
Drives: 2ss/rs
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: pikeville ky
Posts: 2,146
ya we alway x them at the rear helps with side to side movement.
__________________

check out ky speeds fb page https://www.facebook.com/kyspeed
dekan513 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 03:00 PM   #23
bannonm

 
bannonm's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 VR
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,320
Quote:
Originally Posted by dekan513 View Post
ya we alway x them at the rear helps with side to side movement.
Good call. I forget to mention that. So he's saying the car rear left should be tied to the trailer's right side, and vice versa.

Also, I used small jack stands at the rear of the trailer so that when the weight of the car hits the rear of the trailer it doesn't drop. If you are close to hitting the splitter like me, this keeps the trailer from dipping. I use a bottle jack to raise the trailer to get the jacks out after the car is loaded.
__________________
bannonm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2013, 04:21 PM   #24
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Ok. Gotcha about the X strapping. I went and bought two 2" straps. Also went and looked at the trailer. It is uhaul's 7000 lbs trailer. Looks like it will be pretty easy. Even the ramps come out pretty far. The only thing that looked if'y was on the front of the trailer there is a lip where the tires bump up against and then you strap them down. That lip looked to be about 6-8" high. I hope my 1+" drop in the front does make that lip a pain. If so I thought I could always put some wood under the front tires to raise it a bit.
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 12:03 PM   #25
JHall651
 
JHall651's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 478
Wow! Thx HRD_WRK! Already trucking with some Chevy on Chevy love. All you guys were a huge help. Thanks everyone. Oh and thank you Raymonds! Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1365094960.309669.jpg
Views: 464
Size:  232.8 KB
Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1365094983.159683.jpg
Views: 753
Size:  257.6 KB
__________________
2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit
JHall651 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.