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Old 03-29-2013, 08:04 AM   #51
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will they use the same trans gears and rear gears as the track proven 1le? the 1le shares the same trans gears as the z06 but the z06 oddly enough has 3.42's rear gears while the 1le has 3.91's. only reason i see why the z06 get's pretty decent fuel economy compared to the 1le when compared stock to stock
You have to factor in tire height. The overall gearing could be close to the same after you do this. The MPG difference is due more to weight and drag.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:52 PM   #52
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First gen. Z/28 could not be ordered with auto tranny, air conditioning and not available as a vert.
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Learn something new everyday..:-) Thanks.

I guess the Z/28 just seemed to be a more mainstream street car and the ZL1 was rarely seen on the street. Don't get me wrong I love the car and the return of the Z/28 I personally need a few more basic creature comforts like a radio...lol Manual is the only way to go though so no complaints there.

Also, if I am not mistaken... in order to qualify the first Z/28 could not exceed 302 CI and must be a normal production car to qualify.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:00 PM   #53
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Don't get me wrong I love the car and the return of the Z/28 I personally need a few more basic creature comforts like a radio...lol Manual trans is the only way to go though so no complaints there.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:02 PM   #54
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The 1st Gen Z/28s were all 302 4-speeds. No automatic and no AC. Starting in '70, you could get an automatic. AC wasn't available until '73.
Ok thanks, as I said I learn more and more every day..
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #55
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Just as in the ZL1, seems an auto with paddle shifters would be faster...would also get me off the fence. Would like to know moe about suspension and rear gear as well....
Still sounds like an awesome muscle car!! With all the tech advances we CAN have the best of both worlds!
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:05 AM   #56
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Couple of things

Tires are only 26.2" tall vs. 27.9 for 1LE and 28.7 for LS, LT and SS.
So there is a 6.5 percent torque multiplication advantage vs. the 1LE tire, rearend, transmission package. Cruising rpms are 6.5 percent higher as well.

Somebody said that it will have the best power to weight ratio of any Camaro. I don't know if that is true but if the ZL1 s 7.1 lbs per hp. And the Z28 is 7 lbs per hp for example, and it weighs 3750 lbs, then the the LS7 will have to have 535 hp.

I don't think they are going to get 535 hp unless the do a little something to the cam but that is the calculation.

Regardless, this car is going to be a badass and highly collectible.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:03 PM   #57
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if they wanted to save weight why didn't they made a fiberglass hood plastic fenders and doors like the 4th gen... it could run even faster and that 3 second lap..maybe 4??
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:31 PM   #58
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if they wanted to save weight why didn't they made a fiberglass hood plastic fenders and doors like the 4th gen... it could run even faster and that 3 second lap..maybe 4??
Fiberglass is often heavier than aluminum. At least that is true with boats and RVs.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:17 AM   #59
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Tires are only 26.2" tall vs. 27.9 for 1LE and 28.7 for LS, LT and SS.
So there is a 6.5 percent torque multiplication advantage vs. the 1LE tire, rearend, transmission package. Cruising rpms are 6.5 percent higher as well.

Somebody said that it will have the best power to weight ratio of any Camaro. I don't know if that is true but if the ZL1 s 7.1 lbs per hp. And the Z28 is 7 lbs per hp for example, and it weighs 3750 lbs, then the the LS7 will have to have 535 hp.

I don't think they are going to get 535 hp unless the do a little something to the cam but that is the calculation.

Regardless, this car is going to be a badass and highly collectible.
The factory ls7 tune (in the z06) leaves a lot of power on the table. Also she pulls tons of power when the coolant temps start to creep past 200-210*. So if they wanted to they can easily pick up a few with a revision of the tune.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:55 AM   #60
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The factory ls7 tune (in the z06) leaves a lot of power on the table. Also she pulls tons of power when the coolant temps start to creep past 200-210*. So if they wanted to they can easily pick up a few with a revision of the tune.
I'd be shocked if there isn't a "Track mode" for the Magnetic Ride Control as well as the PCM.

Well not literally shocked, I'd have to stick my finger in an electrical socket, but you know what I mean.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:11 PM   #61
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something else to ponder....

Camaro always came in just under powerd vrs the corvette with the same drivetrain. Now that the C6 Z06 will no longer be, I am willing to bet the LS7 will come with a few more ponies in the Z28

Better flowing exhaust, CAI, re-tuned for the Camaro & gearing...

Just hope its not way out of reach price wise..
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #62
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Does the z06 ls7 come with the same tri-y headers or cast?
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Old 04-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #63
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Doesn't look like it shares the same exhaust manifolds as the LS7 corvette.
They look like what they describe the new Pfadt headers which are supposed to be the very latest and best power making setup.

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wish i could afford one,but i like my creature comforts too much,plus i would never get on a track with it anyway,i have hopped up my LS3 and it has never been on a track since ive had her,since 2009,now on the other hand,i could possibly afford to trade up to ZL1 after and if these owners trade in for the Z/28
I would likely not track one either, but it's the mojo that goes along with having a Z28 that makes it attractive. Besides, if you had one, you might look for the opportunity to track it occasionally!
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:58 PM   #64
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I Think the Z28 is a very cool concept, LS7 in the Camaro is pretty epic if you ask me. I just didn't like one thing about it. I got carbo ceramic brakes, something that wasn't available in the ZL1. But then the interior was shitty? No gauges on the bottom, by the shifter? No floor mats? Not that I'm hating on the Camaro interior, but I hope they spruce it up for the 6th Gen.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:45 PM   #65
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I had one of those 302 DZ motors back in the mid seventy's. Only small block chevy I have ever owned that I came off the line at 10,200 RPM. Yes you read that correctly
Back in the day when USAC had the 302cui limit rule my grandpa dropped one of the DZ motors into a spring car with an upgraded valve train and ported heads. This thing would scream from what I've heard from those who raced with him. It would easily crank to 10k and not miss a beat.
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Thanks Brt3, updated posts 2&3 with technical discussion. Enjoy
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