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Old 04-01-2013, 11:40 AM   #201
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Mod the z/28 for me . Ive done all of that other stuff before. I wanna see what the z/28 can do with my mods.
same thing any stripped SS with a LSX in it can.. prolly worse since it is factory and not built and tuned for the purpose.
nothing that special.
overpriced.. collector/car show car is what it will end up.
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What we do know is that stripped ss won't have any value after . And you won't even b close to getting what u invested. I know I would never give close to what ur asking
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I'm thinking it'll be $59,995. Depending on the options, it may go upwards to $64,995.
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What we do know is that stripped ss won't have any value after . And you won't even b close to getting what u invested. I know I would never give close to what ur asking
and unless you put that Z/28 in a climate controlled warehouse and NEVER drive it it wont be worth anything either especially if driven on the track as they were meant for.
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Lol. Mayb ur right buddy , hopefully 1 day we can meet and put the cars on side each other and finish this . How bout that
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Having been schooled on difference of a Z/28 and Z28 , the price is inline what was said by the spokesman during the reveal "the most highly collectible Camaro of all time"

Camaro Team listened, gave every Z/28 diehard what they wanted

weight reduction
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Home run for sure...............
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:20 PM   #207
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aim lower... a beat to hell one and rebuild it with GOOD stuff instead of stocker stuff.

basically find a rolling chassis SS even if it has a million miles on it..
rip out interior.
put in cage and some Recaros remove rear seats and anything else not tied down
rebuild engine from bottom to top with end goal in mind ( boost or NA)
complete race coil over suspension and a brakes upgrade.
betting you can be at this level for under 40k total
if you find the right donor car.

No bling.. no options.. just a bad mother street/track machine.
Why bother with a late model Camaro then? Go buy a Fox body Mustang and you could accomplish this for much, much cheaper.

Sorry, but I think the "well if I start modding <xyz> car and it'll be better than <abc> car!" is just about the lamest argument/excuse in the history of the internet. You can mod anything to be fast, that's really not the point. The Z28 is a badass car. Sure, you can mod your SS to perform like the Z28, but at the end of the day, you still have an SS and he still has a Z28.
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Why bother with a late model Camaro then? Go buy a Fox body Mustang and you could accomplish this for much, much cheaper.

Sorry, but I think the "well if I start modding <xyz> car and it'll be better than <abc> car!" is just about the lamest argument/excuse in the history of the internet. You can mod anything to be fast, that's really not the point. The Z28 is a badass car. Sure, you can mod your SS to perform like the Z28, but at the end of the day, you still have an SS and he still has a Z28.
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C7 Z51? It may not have Carbon brakes, but the stingray is definitely on par with the Z28 performance wise. My guess is the Z/28 will be between 60-70k. Thats C7 territory, and to be honest with you guys, Id take a base stingray over any Camaro.

The Z/28 is fairly priced, look at the tech its sporting. But anything over $60,000 for a modern American pony car is a bit much in my book.
Completely agree.

I was going to say the 'vette too, preferably a used C6 Z06. I also agree in that I wouldn't pay $60k for a pony car either, Ford, Chevy or Dodge. That's bonafide sports car territory and that's what I'd rather have if performance is the name of the game.
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Aerodynamics? More power to answer that(insert manly grunts here).

Look at the F-4 Phantom, it's living proof if you put big enough engines on a brick... it WILL fly.
Lol. And therein lies the problem. You don't want it to fly! That's why you need the aero.
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Lol. Mayb ur right buddy , hopefully 1 day we can meet and put the cars on side each other and finish this . How bout that
by that time My car will be at or near 750rwhp blown with ECS on full road race coilovers and suspension.
my time table for the blower and suspension is 8 months or so.

so all I got to say is.. bring more than a stock Z/28 you'll need it.

and to others that suggested other cars..
why bring other cars even into the equation the thread was about Camaros on a Camaro board?
this was not about making a car as fast as a z/28 but making a SS into a Z/28 for alot less than they are asking.
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Why bother with a late model Camaro then? Go buy a Fox body Mustang and you could accomplish this for much, much cheaper.

Sorry, but I think the "well if I start modding <xyz> car and it'll be better than <abc> car!" is just about the lamest argument/excuse in the history of the internet. You can mod anything to be fast, that's really not the point. The Z28 is a badass car. Sure, you can mod your SS to perform like the Z28, but at the end of the day, you still have an SS and he still has a Z28.
the Z/28 is an overpriced stripped out snoozefest than any properly modded Camaro will flat destroy for less. We have 3 LSX cars in my club alone that will flat leave the Z/28 in a smoking hole in the ground wondering what hit it be it drag strip or autocross while playing the stereo and keeping cool in the AC..
the car is a total miss of the mark that will end up in collectors garages that's about it.
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the Z/28 is an overpriced stripped out snoozefest than any properly modded Camaro will flat destroy for less. We have 3 LSX cars in my club alone that will flat leave the Z/28 in a smoking hole in the ground wondering what hit it be it drag strip or autocross while playing the stereo and keeping cool in the AC..
the car is a total miss of the mark that will end up in collectors garages that's about it.
You forgot to mention how much they have invested in their cars... then there's the fact their mods are valued at pennies on the dollar but the Z/28 will hold it's value MUCH better! I'll bet money on it.
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You forgot to mention how much they have invested in their cars... then there's the fact their mods are valued at pennies on the dollar but the Z/28 will hold it's value MUCH better! I'll bet money on it.
Less than the markup on this pile will be.

I'm betting at least down here where Cobra and ZL1s are severely marked up into the 70s
This car will be sitting at low 80s with as limited a run as they are planning as well as the demand on the collectable side.

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all they had to do was drop a ls7 into the 1le platform

but nooOOOoooo..

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by that time My car will be at or near 750rwhp blown with ECS on full road race coilovers and suspension.
my time table for the blower and suspension is 8 months or so.

so all I got to say is.. bring more than a stock Z/28 you'll need it.

and to others that suggested other cars..
why bring other cars even into the equation the thread was about Camaros on a Camaro board?
this was not about making a car as fast as a z/28 but making a SS into a Z/28 for alot less than they are asking.
Dyno numbers never did impress me . I'm more interested in quater mile numbers. That's a gimmick
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Dyno numbers never did impress me . I'm more interested in quater mile numbers. That's a gimmick
These are not dyno queens.
These are 9 second and below cars.

One being a 1400 hp twin turbo LSX car.
He is on here.

as is another look for dangeruss he has a build log here 885hp on his
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I think we may be a bit off track here The Z/28 is not designed for the drag strip. It will do well on an autocross. What the Z/28 is designed to do is run laps. Lots of laps. Consistent laps. Mark Stielow is a renowned Pro-Touring / Show Car builder and a multiple OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Champion. His Mayhem Pro-Touring Camaro feature a Brian Thompson built 850 RWHP. This guy is a hard core car guy.

Mark's day job is engineering at GM. For the last two years Mark has been working on the Z/28. His credentials are second to none. Hand Mark a pile of tubing, sheet-metal and go fast parts and he'll build you a Pro-Touring car in his home garage. Combine Mark's skills with the resources at GM, the Camaro TEAM and you get a Z/28 but for the road course or eXtreme daily driver. It is a fully engineered track car in the spirit of the current Porsche GT3 that weighs in at 3,318 and retails for $134,000.

Can you build a Z/28 like Camaro? Of course and we have since the release back in 2009. Can you build them cheaper is the real question. Everything on the Z/28 has been validated to meet OEM standards for durability and warranty. That sets the bar pretty high. What I know is that a set of 19x11 light weight racing wheels retail for $4,700. Club Sport Brembo GTR Brakes are $20K. Dry sump systems aren't cheap and so on. Chevrolet has yet to release pricing so we'll have to wait and see what a road course Camaro with a factory warranty sells for.
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Sorry, still taking advantage of our sorry asses that will continue to buy or wish we could buy one of these cool cars. My ass is going to be in my 2011 RS/SS for a long time as I am happy with it and I can say UNCLE !!

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I think we may be a bit off track here The Z/28 is not designed for the drag strip. It will do well on an autocross. What the Z/28 is designed to do is run laps. Lots of laps. Consistent laps. Mark Stielow is a renowned Pro-Touring / Show Car builder and a multiple OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Champion. His Mayhem Pro-Touring Camaro feature a Brian Thompson built 850 RWHP. This guy is a hard core car guy.

Mark's day job is engineering at GM. For the last two years Mark has been working on the Z/28. His credentials are second to none. Hand Mark a pile of tubing, sheet-metal and go fast parts and he'll build you a Pro-Touring car in his home garage. Combine Mark's skills with the resources at GM, the Camaro TEAM and you get a Z/28 but for the road course or eXtreme daily driver. It is a fully engineered track car in the spirit of the current Porsche GT3 that weighs in at 3,318 and retails for $134,000.

Can you build a Z/28 like Camaro? Of course and we have since the release back in 2009. Can you build them cheaper is the real question. Everything on the Z/28 has been validated to meet OEM standards for durability and warranty. That sets the bar pretty high. What I know is that a set of 19x11 light weight racing wheels retail for $4,700. Club Sport Brembo GTR Brakes are $20K. Dry sump systems aren't cheap and so on. Chevrolet has yet to release pricing so we'll have to wait and see what a road course Camaro with a factory warranty sells for.
And as said above these cars will end up as poser garage queens for most.
They priced it and limited it to the point it's a better collectors item than a race or street car.

The brakes are worthless to all but the most deep pocketed track person who most likely won't want to risk such.a limited car on the track in the first place.

We know it's going to be a super limited expensive car.

We also know true motorheads give a Crap less about factory warranty and will always build it bigger and better if something fails.

And we are aware they are not focused at drag but he asked for times.






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the Z/28 is an overpriced stripped out snoozefest than any properly modded Camaro will flat destroy for less. We have 3 LSX cars in my club alone that will flat leave the Z/28 in a smoking hole in the ground wondering what hit it be it drag strip or autocross while playing the stereo and keeping cool in the AC..
the car is a total miss of the mark that will end up in collectors garages that's about it.
Dude, you own a Camaro, why the dissing on the Z/28? You're forgetting that from the factory, that this is still an awesome machine that comes with a warranty.
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I think we may be a bit off track here The Z/28 is not designed for the drag strip. It will do well on an autocross. What the Z/28 is designed to do is run laps. Lots of laps. Consistent laps. Mark Stielow is a renowned Pro-Touring / Show Car builder and a multiple OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Champion. His Mayhem Pro-Touring Camaro feature a Brian Thompson built 850 RWHP. This guy is a hard core car guy.

Mark's day job is engineering at GM. For the last two years Mark has been working on the Z/28. His credentials are second to none. Hand Mark a pile of tubing, sheet-metal and go fast parts and he'll build you a Pro-Touring car in his home garage. Combine Mark's skills with the resources at GM, the Camaro TEAM and you get a Z/28 but for the road course or eXtreme daily driver. It is a fully engineered track car in the spirit of the current Porsche GT3 that weighs in at 3,318 and retails for $134,000.

Can you build a Z/28 like Camaro? Of course and we have since the release back in 2009. Can you build them cheaper is the real question. Everything on the Z/28 has been validated to meet OEM standards for durability and warranty. That sets the bar pretty high. What I know is that a set of 19x11 light weight racing wheels retail for $4,700. Club Sport Brembo GTR Brakes are $20K. Dry sump systems aren't cheap and so on. Chevrolet has yet to release pricing so we'll have to wait and see what a road course Camaro with a factory warranty sells for.
I appretiate ur knows with all due respect. I was more on the been there done that point of view as far as modding the ss. My thoughts is doing something different in a bad ass car which i could care less about how much it would cost. I know what Im working with as far as this z/28. We all know several factory parts are going on the shelf as far as modding the z/28. The bank ain't no issue for me, and most of the parts bieng swapped are already here . We're just wiring for the z/28.
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Dude, you own a Camaro, why the dissing on the Z/28? You're forgetting that from the factory, that this is still an awesome machine that comes with a warranty.
Speculation of the pricing is all I can see. Members just aren't satisfied but I can understand the fustration.
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