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Old 07-01-2009, 12:02 PM   #18
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Its just a quality control issue from Tremec. Won't cost GM anything, just send them back to Tremec for exchange. I'm not worried about it and I know its not a fault of GM and the launch control feature, however, will I try it again? I don't think so... lol I think I will only do full throttle rolling starts from now on...
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:03 PM   #19
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Hey mustang boy, the TR6060 is used by the GT500, Corvette, Viper SRT10, Challenger, and others. You really wanna fault GM for picking the TR6060?
Same tranny, but maybe not the same specs. I know there is a difference between the T6060 in the Viper and what's in my car. Input shafts and outputs shafts are likely different, too.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:03 PM   #20
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GM, it's sad to know after all the QC holds things like this still happen to paying customers. i guess you can say it's a tremec issue, but it's gm's responsibility to make sure everything passes QC. idk just venting it sucks to see good customers getting screwed.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:15 PM   #21
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GM, it's sad to know after all the QC holds things like this still happen to paying customers. i guess you can say it's a tremec issue, but it's gm's responsibility to make sure everything passes QC. idk just venting it sucks to see good customers getting screwed.
Stuff like this always happens in any manufacturing process. The only way to test would be to do burnouts and hard launches in the parking lot before they're put on the train. Would you like them to do that? I don't see how customers are getting screwed. They're being taken care of. If GM said "your fault, not covered under warranty" that would be a different situation.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:24 PM   #22
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Yeah, my dealer is taking care of me.. I talked to the service manager this morning and told him that I dumped the clutch doing a launch and the damn thing snapped. He kept saying he was sorry to hear about it and that they will start on it this afternoon.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:27 PM   #23
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Stuff like this always happens in any manufacturing process. The only way to test would be to do burnouts and hard launches in the parking lot before they're put on the train. Would you like them to do that? I don't see how customers are getting screwed. They're being taken care of. If GM said "your fault, not covered under warranty" that would be a different situation.
Dude you have a VIN! congrats! Hope you get your car soon!

That said this problem could NEVER be caught in QC unless they had someone go out and launch every car. It sucks but it happens, at least they are stepping up and fixing it imemdiately.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:32 PM   #24
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your story made me lol. I mean, I know v8 guys maybe have a different mentality, but pulling into a mall to do a burnout? seriously?
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Dude you have a VIN! congrats! Hope you get your car soon!
I should have it tomorrow or Friday. Fingers crossed.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:41 PM   #26
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your story made me lol. I mean, I know v8 guys maybe have a different mentality, but pulling into a mall to do a burnout? seriously?
Its a fairly quiet mall that is dying. lol Its got massive parking lots that aren't even used. I'm talking about 1,500+ parking spaces that aren't used..Well, they are, but not for parking..
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:17 PM   #27
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Wow...Good thing you weren't trying out launch control at the drag strip or some other racing venue....

Glad to hear the dealer is looking out for you. Hate to hear that it happened but if you're gonna break something, it's best to do it when you're still under warranty.
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:22 PM   #28
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Ah, such much fun driving my Camaro. Took my neighbor out tonight for a ride and decided to hit the mall parking lot for a quick burnout. Well, didn't get to do the burnout, instead I decided to try out the Launch Control... So I get it into Competitive mode, mash the accelerator to the floor. I check, and its holding about 4200 rpms like it shoud.... Every thing looks fine and dandy... Dump the clutch... BAMMMMMMM!

Now here I am with my neighbor friend, and the first thing he says... " oh shit!, you're done...".... As far as I can tell, the tremec didn't hold up to the dump of the clutch. I can't get the camaro to move in gear now at all.. Leaking trans fluid going everywhere on the ground.... called onstar.. Get everything set up to get it towed back to the dealer right now. I am sure the tremec's tail shaft snapped..

So much for launch control... Maybe if I had slippery tires, it wouldn't of been a problem.. Oh, and while waiting for the Tow truck guy, here comes this ricer into the parking lot doing donuts and just making me feel worse about the whole situation.. I still love the Camaro though.. Now I have to sit and wait while I figure out what the dealer is going to do about it.

Anybody else's M6 transmission broke yet from burnouts/ launch control?
You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:07 PM   #29
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
Uh... Why do you care so much about me getting on it? Am I somehow related to you? Are you my long lost Uncle that supposedly died in Vietnam? So, what if i was to say that I have 2600 miles on the car and the engine oil and rear end oil was changed already? How do you know what the mileage on my car is and if its broken in? Either way, the unit would of failed... I don't see being rough on my Camaro when Launch Control is a feature of the damn car.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:42 PM   #30
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Its a fairly quiet mall that is dying. lol Its got massive parking lots that aren't even used. I'm talking about 1,500+ parking spaces that aren't used..Well, they are, but not for parking..

I know that mall, used to live in Overland Park. Wow, that was 12 years ago.

Anyways, hope you get your car fixed soon and I hope its permanent. Just be glad you didn't spend $90,000 on a Nissan GTR only to be told that you will void the warranty if you do half of the stuff it is actually capable of.

To all of those that are ready to throw GM to the wolves, come on, this is a situation faced by every manufacturer all the time.

Toyota bought back thousands of Tacomas for frame rust, Nissan won't warrant the GTR if you use launch control and Ford recalled my F-150 because the brake booster could cease to function, causing me to lose power assist (fine for me, but my wife would have gone apeshit).
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
Wow, you took this from a discussion on the strength of the Tremec to a discussion on the morals and responsibility of the new auto owner.

They put launch control on the car, I'm sure as hell gonna try it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:14 PM   #32
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You know it's your fault and not the tranny. Hell why are you being so rough on a car that you barely had for over a week? Nothing is even broke in yet and your acting like a clown. I know this wasn't the first time you got on it so maybe do as instructed next time and wait to actually break the car in instead of just breaking it.
uhh yeah, you dont need to break in a transmission tailshaft, theres no reason for it to shatter like that. Using the built in launch control feature in an empty lot is acting like a clown? What would you say if he was going 75 in a 65?
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:19 PM   #33
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Hey mustang boy, the TR6060 is used by the GT500, Corvette, Viper SRT10, Challenger, and others. You really wanna fault GM for picking the TR6060?

and just about everyone of those cars have owners that have beef with that transmission

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Same tranny, but maybe not the same specs. I know there is a difference between the T6060 in the Viper and what's in my car. Input shafts and outputs shafts are likely different, too.


exactly. Just like the t-5 transmission, all called t-5s but there has got to be 15-30 different ones, different specs, input shafts, output shafts, etc etc etc

even bellhousing design can change the strength of the transmission, which is a GM design, or FORD design, etc etc to match up to the engine block.


Not saying it only happens to the camaro, shit i broke 5 transmissions in my car.......... granted im putting more torque to the wheels than an LS3 makes at the flywheel lol on a transmission thats meant to handle half the torque of the tr6060 (less than half)
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before posting your negative comment ... please read post #14

you may need to read it twice

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