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Old 04-21-2008, 02:13 AM   #15
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lol damn. Oh well. I'd rather sacrafice my Camaro for individuality than to be mundane. I'm not knocking on the purist crowd, its just personal taste. Shit, its that crowd that usually sell their Camaro's for 70-120k when they turn 50 or 60 years old.

Can you say retirement?
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:45 AM   #16
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Do it all as a package. All those pieces work together and it is critical to have performance matched components.

Translation: Find a good high performance shop, tell them how much power you want and they can specify a package...Cam, headers, supercharger, etc.

But, kiss your GM engine warranty bye-bye.
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this engine should fit in a 3rd or 4th gen right???
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:25 AM   #18
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I believe most of it should be a straight sway, physically. You'll likely need electrical connections, fuel connections, and intake manifold (among others) changes to a 3rd and 4th Gen., but the Gen III and Gen IV are nearly identical on the exterior (except for things like cam, crank, and knock sensor changes.)

IMHO, this is the exactly reason I'm trying to wait for a top dog model, so I don't have to spend $1K on mods' that will void my warranty. Regardless, there isn't anything quite like the sound of a cammed V8 though.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:07 AM   #19
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Ya.. You cant just toss a cam in a stock ls3 and get 50 extra HP for a $300.

You need to do ALL the supporting mods first. And don't forget the custom tune thats about $500.

O ya.. and I would go with thunderracing. I loved their 224/224/114 cam in my LS1. with all the supporting mods, I got 395RWHP. and they have the best customer service too.
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how easy is a cam swap compared to most other engine mods? Is it recomended for gearheads only or would it be possible for someone with basic knowledge to do?
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:08 AM   #21
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I did my own cam swap with basic tools at my house. I did a lot of research, and took my time to make sure I did it correctly.

I pretty much learned how to work on a car by moding my 02 camaro. I did everything but tune it, and weld in the sub frames. Spend your money on tools, not install fees at a shop. And take the time to teach your self, its worth it.

Also If you plan it correctly you will end up doing the easy mods first and get better with a wrench along the way, so by the time your car is ready for a cam, you will be able to install it your self.
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how easy is a cam swap compared to most other engine mods? Is it recomended for gearheads only or would it be possible for someone with basic knowledge to do?
Itís not difficult, itís just a lot of work. You have to remove the water pump, timing chain, intake manifold, valve covers, rockers, a mess of hoses and wire. You also have to either remove the radiator and (some or all of) the grill/front clip or pull the engine out. The only really tricky part is getting the cam timing right and not leaving any leaks.

You shouldnít have to buy any tools, and if you do they are tools you should own anyway (except the engine hoist which you can rent). An experieced freind and/or shop manual will make things a lot easier.

You may also need new, more compressible valve springs if the new cam adds enough lift to make the stock springs stack or bind. If so then you will need a valve spring compressor and length of rope to stuff into the chamber (though the spark plug hole) to keep the valve from falling in. Iíve seen kits that allow you to use compressed air to hold the valves up, but if you lose pressure, you may end up having to pull the head to get the valve out.
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Itís not difficult, itís just a lot of work. You have to remove the water pump, timing chain, intake manifold, valve covers, rockers, a mess of hoses and wire. You also have to either remove the radiator and (some or all of) the grill/front clip or pull the engine out. The only really tricky part is getting the cam timing right and not leaving any leaks.

You shouldnít have to buy any tools, and if you do they are tools you should own anyway (except the engine hoist which you can rent). An experieced freind and/or shop manual will make things a lot easier.

You may also need new, more compressible valve springs if the new cam adds enough lift to make the stock springs stack or bind. If so then you will need a valve spring compressor and length of rope to stuff into the chamber (though the spark plug hole) to keep the valve from falling in. Iíve seen kits that allow you to use compressed air to hold the valves up, but if you lose pressure, you may end up having to pull the head to get the valve out.
anything else??? we have done this to our camaro, this sounds right...its a lot of work but its worth it to have a knowledgeable friend there to help out because if you screw it up, you have to do it again....
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Itís not difficult, itís just a lot of work. You have to remove the water pump, timing chain, intake manifold, valve covers, rockers, a mess of hoses and wire. You also have to either remove the radiator and (some or all of) the grill/front clip or pull the engine out. The only really tricky part is getting the cam timing right and not leaving any leaks.

You shouldnít have to buy any tools, and if you do they are tools you should own anyway (except the engine hoist which you can rent). An experieced freind and/or shop manual will make things a lot easier.

You may also need new, more compressible valve springs if the new cam adds enough lift to make the stock springs stack or bind. If so then you will need a valve spring compressor and length of rope to stuff into the chamber (though the spark plug hole) to keep the valve from falling in. Iíve seen kits that allow you to use compressed air to hold the valves up, but if you lose pressure, you may end up having to pull the head to get the valve out.
ok then, i say we just let gm save us all this work and let us order one from the factory with this cam.



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Holy snikies!!!

I tell you right now....if my 5th Gen comes w/ an LS3, I'm going to make every attempt at ordering mine w/ a factory installed cam like this one. It's going to kick all the others @sses! Sheat, yeah!!
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