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Old 04-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #18
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I think very very few are rejecting it. And those that are either can't afford it or they are ZL1 owners concerned the Z/28 will outshine their Camaro.
As a ZL1 owner, the last thing I am worried about is the Z/28 outshining the ZL1. I am thrilled that GM made the Z/28. I think that is a little presumptuous of you. I have not run into any ZL1 owners that have anything negative to say about the Z/28. While they may be surprised at the approach and have opinions on what they would have like to have seen, I think the #1 issue most people have is that is going to cost MORE than the ZL1 which is tough to justify unless you are a totally committed track person.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:44 PM   #19
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:11 PM   #20
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As a ZL1 owner, the last thing I am worried about is the Z/28 outshining the ZL1. I am thrilled that GM made the Z/28. I think that is a little presumptuous of you. I have not run into any ZL1 owners that have anything negative to say about the Z/28. While they may be surprised at the approach and have opinions on what they would have like to have seen, I think the #1 issue most people have is that is going to cost MORE than the ZL1 which is tough to justify unless you are a totally committed track person.
Go back and reread what I said.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:14 PM   #21
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The only people upset about the Z/28 are those that will not be able to afford it. While it may be a bummer for some, you can't argue how great this car is going to be. A 1LE with an LS7 ain't gonna cut it.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:58 PM   #22
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No, the LS3 is enough in the 1LE.
I wish i concured. would have saved me lots of money. the ls3 does well in the vette but in the camaro it just feels so average.

even the lsa left me wanting for more until I modded it.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:34 PM   #23
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If GM decides to offer a decent BLUE akin to the Hotwheels color, I will be ordering a 2014 1LE with them thar fancy seats. I will be adding a cam, LT headers, intake, exhaust and of course a new tune. 500hp range, no problem. Crossing fingers.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:10 PM   #24
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If GM decides to offer a decent BLUE akin to the Hotwheels color, I will be ordering a 2014 1LE with them thar fancy seats. I will be adding a cam, LT headers, intake, exhaust and of course a new tune. 500hp range, no problem. Crossing fingers.
That would be the ultimate 1LE. I would do backflips if they made Kinetic Blue available but I'm not optimistic. Is the lack of a nice blue the only thing holding you back from a 2014 1LE?
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:16 PM   #25
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As a ZL1 owner, the last thing I am worried about is the Z/28 outshining the ZL1. I am thrilled that GM made the Z/28. I think that is a little presumptuous of you. I have not run into any ZL1 owners that have anything negative to say about the Z/28. While they may be surprised at the approach and have opinions on what they would have like to have seen, I think the #1 issue most people have is that is going to cost MORE than the ZL1 which is tough to justify unless you are a totally committed track person.
And they are the target buyer for the new Z/28.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:29 PM   #26
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I will buy a z/28, and it will be my DD. that is all.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:57 PM   #27
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:28 PM   #28
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The only people upset about the Z/28 are those that will not be able to afford it. While it may be a bummer for some, you can't argue how great this car is going to be. A 1LE with an LS7 ain't gonna cut it.
People are upset by the approach GM took in creating the Z/28 not because they can't afford it, if you want speak for yourself go right ahead. It's just not practical for most ppl especially in my case being track orientated. I can reduce weight by taking out my speakers, and other means. But I'd rather not. Instead of stripping down to reduce weight a 5th Gen they should have waited for the Z/28 to be on a platform that will already be engineered for less weight(6th Gen) while maintaining some of the comforts people are used to. By putting a LS7 engine in GM is trying to sway some people to jump. I'm staying put. Kudos for GM bringing the hallowed name back but it was forced with a sub-par refresh. For those making it a DD good luck with that, I'm laughing at the first member who tears up his front lip on the highway.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:16 AM   #29
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All this talk about the Z being a DD and pricing or creature comforts. Really??? Get over it and buy something else if you don't like it, move on and find something else to complain about. Look at the original Z28 in 1967. Was it a practical for everyone as a DD especially if you opted for the cross-ram dual four intake & headers in the trunk waiting to be installed by the dealer?? It's a base for a race car, not a Cadillac. The public is spoiled with comforts. Want a race car buy it, want a street car buy it but don't expect both out of one. The Camaro isn't a "super car" and never will be. It's average Joes muscle car just as it was intended way back in the day.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:47 AM   #30
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All this talk about the Z being a DD and pricing or creature comforts. Really??? Get over it and buy something else if you don't like it, move on and find something else to complain about. Look at the original Z28 in 1967. Was it a practical for everyone as a DD especially if you opted for the cross-ram dual four intake & headers in the trunk waiting to be installed by the dealer?? It's a base for a race car, not a Cadillac. The public is spoiled with comforts. Want a race car buy it, want a street car buy it but don't expect both out of one. The Camaro isn't a "super car" and never will be. It's average Joes muscle car just as it was intended way back in the day.
Nicely put.

Most people out there just see every 5th gen as a camaro, they just don't know the diffrence. My little v6 still turns heads and it puts a smile on my face, thats all that really matters. So go out and drive a camaro no matter which one it is.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:56 AM   #31
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All this talk about the Z being a DD and pricing or creature comforts. Really??? Get over it and buy something else if you don't like it, move on and find something else to complain about. Look at the original Z28 in 1967. Was it a practical for everyone as a DD especially if you opted for the cross-ram dual four intake & headers in the trunk waiting to be installed by the dealer?? It's a base for a race car, not a Cadillac. The public is spoiled with comforts. Want a race car buy it, want a street car buy it but don't expect both out of one. The Camaro isn't a "super car" and never will be. It's average Joes muscle car just as it was intended way back in the day.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:51 AM   #32
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I thought you could get a Z/28 with options. Although it would defeat the purpose of the Z/28.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:22 AM   #33
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I thought you could get a Z/28 with options. Although it would defeat the purpose of the Z/28.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #34
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For those who really want one and don't intend to race much. A few speakers and some well placed Dynamat can take care of many of your issues. Most people would put headers on it anyhow so the weight loss of factory exhaust parts could offset the dynamat and a couple speakers.
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