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Old 04-04-2013, 12:15 PM   #687
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Just some thoughts:

To me the new front fascia upper grille seems to have less area which I suspect would offer less cooling on a car where heat is already somewhat of an issue. Assuming that is true they are not going to hurt the performance by updating the cosmetics. It is also possible the downforce levels would be changed in a negative way as the ZL1 hood is different from the new vented hood. So I don't think it is being lazy, just knowing they perfected the design already and don't want to mess with it. Clearly they took cues from the ZL1 for the new fascia.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:42 PM   #688
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I just don't agree. And I'm sorry you feel that way...especially since you appear to be making assumptions without having any first-hand knowledge of meetings held or discussions with the designers/engineers.
You are entitled to your opinion and I can see, the ZL1 having cooling problems as it is, how them shrinking the top grill would only make things worse. They could adjust the aerodynamics, that's a fact. It would affect certain things yes but if they really wanted to they could have given the ZL1 a new front end.

Regardless it is going to look kinda ridiculous with the new rear end with the old front. I despise everything about the new rear end though so I might be bias...
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:55 PM   #689
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Agree to disagree. I don't think it'll look ridiculous...haven't heard anyone complaining about the ZL1's nose. If anything, it might look more purposeful and more distinct.

Personally, I was actually pretty interested to know why the Z/28s front end wasn't changed a little more from the normal piece.

One thing is true, as was mentioned in here...They learned/discovered that when the lower opening is bigger than the upper opening, the car takes on a more lean, sporty look. They learned this from the ZL1...the lower grille for which was designed to function...and function demanded BIG. So in effect, the ZL1's front end could be considered "in between" the original design and the refresh.

EDIT: Also...no cooling "problems" for ZL1 in OE form. Higher cooling needs, sure, due to the blower and higher overall power...but most of the cooling air for the heat exchanger comes from the lower air dam, anyways.
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:27 PM   #690
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I would safely say the Z/28 was tested in a wind tunnel, they would not go through the front and rear design changes the way they just for funsies or on a whim. The ZL1 was extensively tested in a wind tunnel, the tailight changes have not been disclosed, nor the shape or design of the rear fascia, decklid, spoiler, lower aero panel and rear diffuser. The rear would reflect the style refresh of the 2014 is all they said. Lets wait and see before anyone passes harsh judgement. Let's not jump the gun.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:05 PM   #691
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I always said I can live without my A/C but what about rainy days it's hot? Also, I have always had a nice sound system in my car but after hearing the V8 turning on and accelerating in these cars I don't really care about it (the sound system) anymore. No HID's either. Hmm! I can sacrifice that. Especially with the ceramic brakes. I have always said with other cars, especially luxury cars, I'll give up the heated steering wheel in exchange for dual exhaust. A little bit of sacrifices but I'm sold!
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:12 PM   #692
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The z28 is the only way I will change my vote from dislike to holy f I love.... Great work GM.
anyone know the msrp for the 2014 2z8?
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:22 PM   #693
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anyone know the msrp for the 2014 2z8?
No. We could possibly be a year away from knowing it. You won't miss it on this site once its announced.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:21 AM   #694
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #695
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Have the colors been released yet. I have only found mention of there being 5 choices.
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Stick shift only.
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Have the colors been released yet. I have only found mention of there being 5 choices.
As of right now those are the only colors being offered.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:26 PM   #698
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As of right now those are the only colors being offered.
What were the 5 colors though?
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Agree to disagree. I don't think it'll look ridiculous...haven't heard anyone complaining about the ZL1's nose. If anything, it might look more purposeful and more distinct.

Personally, I was actually pretty interested to know why the Z/28s front end wasn't changed a little more from the normal piece.

One thing is true, as was mentioned in here...They learned/discovered that when the lower opening is bigger than the upper opening, the car takes on a more lean, sporty look. They learned this from the ZL1...the lower grille for which was designed to function...and function demanded BIG. So in effect, the ZL1's front end could be considered "in between" the original design and the refresh.

EDIT: Also...no cooling "problems" for ZL1 in OE form. Higher cooling needs, sure, due to the blower and higher overall power...but most of the cooling air for the heat exchanger comes from the lower air dam, anyways.
The ZL1 front end is ahead of its time. Just a classic front end.
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What were the 5 colors though?
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285431

Look at the first PDF. Lots of good info. I believe they were Black, Silver Ice Metallic, Ashen Grey, Summit White, and Red Hot.
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