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Old 04-08-2013, 11:22 PM   #51
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holy crap i think you have outdone yourself...simply amazing. thats going to look great with the color scheme you have planned.

how much weight do you think you shed off the diff?
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Nathan you have some MAD TALENT. Your whole build, is a work of art, congrats.
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It's truly a shame that much of this work won't be seen as the car drives past :((((
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I'm wondering, with all that excess casting/material that Nathan has sanded off from each indiviual piece, would this actually translate to several pounds of weight loss???
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I'm wondering, with all that excess casting/material that Nathan has sanded off from each indiviual piece, would this actually translate to several pounds of weight loss???
lol more than several, more like several hundred when taken in total with everything else he's doing. When he's done this car is going to be under 3,500 lbs; maybe even under 3,400.
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dude you are insane what would you do if the first time you take it out you have a jackass run a red light and t-bone you i think i would go o jail because i would kill him lol nah but for real this is amazing
LOL, I don't even want to think about it.

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Looking at the pieces you are creating, it reminds me of Pagani and his attention to detail. I have nothing technical to add to you're thread but
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lol more than several, more like several hundred when taken in total with everything else he's doing. When he's done this car is going to be under 3,500 lbs; maybe even under 3,400.
That's the goal, 3,400 as it's going to be basically set up as a track car, ie, no AC, radio/speakers, rear seat, etc...

Here is a pic of the HH back from getting blasted. The only insignia I left was the Hammerhead logo.

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Tomorrow it will go to get Ultrasonically cleaned. This is the same process used to clean surgical equipment. It took me a long time to find a shop with one as it's a really expensive piece of equipment, in most case $15,000 on up. Next it will go to the powder coater. The reason I'm not doing not powder coating first is because the ultrasonic dunk will hurt the finish. The goal for the cleaning it to make sure it's there aren't any metal shaving. Below id a picture of my block which I had cleaned as well.

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A bunch of updates to come as I'm a lot further a heads than the updates. It just takes a lot of time to organize, sort and post and time is something I have little of right now.



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Cool!!! This is moving faster than any other major project on C5 has ever moved. If you ask me. Maybe its just that we get an actual update, with pictures, on something new almost every day. I read C5 threads instead of watching the news haha.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:32 PM   #58
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The passion that the Moreno G5R project exhibits is simply unparalleled! We ourselves are truly honored to be involved in such a project and could not be happier with how it is proceeding. These build threads are a must-subscribe to!

Thanks Nathan and Justin!

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Old 04-10-2013, 11:10 PM   #59
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Cool!!! This is moving faster than any other major project on C5 has ever moved. If you ask me. Maybe its just that we get an actual update, with pictures, on something new almost every day. I read C5 threads instead of watching the news haha.

Thanks Vroom! Thats because my brothers and I are working on it daily to get her DONE!

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Thanks Nathan and Justin!
Thanks guys! Can't wait to have Aaron drive the car at couple of tracking events and help us fine tune it!


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Rear Upper Control Arms


These guys were in desperate need of some love.

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You can see how jagged the edges are.


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So with some tools on hand the works begins.

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So with a little bit of this.......

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And a dash of this.......

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And a dash of that.......

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And finally, completely cleaned and awaiting the silver powder coating. We will pick up the finished product tomorrow.

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I got some more parts in today but they are not for the engine bay or suspension side of the project, so I don't know where to post them and I'm certainly not going to create another thread, LOL. I will see what I figure out. Stay tuned for tomorrows update.

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Old 04-11-2013, 11:39 AM   #60
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Are you beating that chisel with a framing hammer? LOL this isn't woodshop!
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:53 PM   #62
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Are you beating that chisel with a framing hammer? LOL this isn't woodshop!
LOL, I like to speak softly and carry a big Hammer, LOL.

Kyle, I'm not sure if you heard but I hear there is a KILLER 5 Gen Camaro being built in your neck of the woods. It's currently being kept hooch hooch but will be competing in the One Lap in the next few weeks.

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The continuation of Rear Upper Control Arms


Quick disclosure: The color is very nice on its own merits but I'm not feeling it for this project, to much bling. It's hard to pick color from a brochure with 1' square color sample. I will probably use it as an expensive base to paint them the same Alumi Blast color I used on the spindles.

Here are a few before and afters.

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I had the housing ultrasonically cleaned today and drop off at the powder coater. Stay tuned for tomorrows update.

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:28 PM   #63
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Quick Update:

Refinishing Rear Spindles:



Well, here is what I started with........



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The red circles represent all the little lumps, bumps and insignia that were removed.


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Next came the removal of the bushing that will re replaced with a Pfadt Racing poly. I rented a three prung puller from AZ and removed one of the prungs.

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Next I cut of the rubber around the edge of the bushing to make it easier to pull out.

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Wala, they're out!

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Lastly, here are a few pics from every angle of the final results. For more details on the rest of the steps, see the pics on the front spindles.

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Stay Tuned for more updates tomorrow.

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Quick Update:

Removing Rear Sub Bushings and control arm bushings.

Here are a few pictures of the process my brother and I took to remove the rear bushings. This is by no means is the only way to do it or the easiest but being that my rear sub was out of the car, this is the way I did it.

To keep the upper control arm bracket from moving around while trying to cut out the bushing, Justin made a fixture to bolt it to.

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Next we used a saw to cut the center section out.

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Here is the center section from one of the sub frame bushings for reference. Similar to the control arm bushings.

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These bushings have an outer steel sleeve that has adhesive from the factory. We gave it some heat to loosen up the adhesive. The last step was to cut the steel outer ring very carefully as to not cut the housing (Picture not shown.) Next I hammer a screw driver to create a wedge between the sleeve and housing and worked it till the steel ring collapse on it self. I will say this was a PITA to do.

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For the sub bushing the process was basically the same. After cutting out the center section, I broke off the edges of the bushing and the made two cuts with the saw-zall and pried it with the screw driver.

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Finally got them all out.

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If anybody has some tips for others on an easier way to remove these bushing, please post them as this seemed pretty barbaric way of doing them, LOL.

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Old 04-15-2013, 11:02 AM   #65
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looking good guys....



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Kyle, I'm not sure if you heard but I hear there is a KILLER 5 Gen Camaro being built in your neck of the woods. It's currently being kept hooch hooch but will be competing in the One Lap in the next few weeks.



LOL Jordan.

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The continuation of Rear Upper Control Arms



Quick disclosure: The color is very nice on its own merits but I'm not feeling it for this project, to much bling. It's hard to pick color from a brochure with 1' square color sample. I will probably use it as an expensive base to paint them the same Alumi Blast color I used on the spindles.



Here are a few before and afters.




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I had the housing ultrasonically cleaned today and drop off at the powder coater. Stay tuned for tomorrows update.

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[QUOTE=Nathan Moreno;6414167]LOL, I like to speak softly and carry a big Hammer, LOL.

Kyle, I'm not sure if you heard but I hear there is a KILLER 5 Gen Camaro being built in your neck of the woods. It's currently being kept hooch hooch but will be competing in the One Lap in the next few weeks.



Oh come on! you can't say that and not give me anything else to go off of! HMM I wonder if the place down the road from my house is finally doing some more development with a 5th gen.

Looking good as always Nathan!
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looking good guys....
Than ks Frank, I will be shipping it back to you as soon as I get it back from the powder coating.

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Kyle, I'm not sure if you heard but I hear there is a KILLER 5 Gen Camaro being built in your neck of the woods. It's currently being kept hooch hooch but will be competing in the One Lap in the next few weeks.



Oh come on! you can't say that and not give me anything else to go off of! HMM I wonder if the place down the road from my house is finally doing some more development with a 5th gen.

Looking good as always Nathan!

Bingo! Supposedly it's all gutted out, be interesting to see how we do in comparison. I will need Aaron to drive the car because those guys can drive, LOL

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Giving the hubs a little love!


here what I started with

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And after much scotch brite and some paint.


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If anybody has some tips for others on an easier way to remove these bushing, please post them as this seemed pretty barbaric way of doing them, LOL.

I used PVC pipe, threaded rod and some heat took about 3-5 minutes per bushing

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[QUOTE=Nathan Moreno;6427952]Than ks Frank, I will be shipping it back to you as soon as I get it back from the powder coating.

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Bingo! Supposedly it's all gutted out, be interesting to see how we do in comparison. I will need Aaron to drive the car because those guys can drive, LOL

Quick Update:

Giving the hubs a little love!


here what I started with

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And after much scotch brite and some paint.


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question Nathan - aren't the hubs covered by the rotors/rotor hats?
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Than ks Frank, I will be shipping it back to you as soon as I get it back from the powder coating.



question Nathan - aren't the hubs covered by the rotors/rotor hats?
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I used PVC pipe, threaded rod and some heat took about 3-5 minutes per bushing

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289431
That was a great write up! Thanks for posting. I wish I had seen it before, LOL.

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Than ks Frank, I will be shipping it back to you as soon as I get it back from the powder coating.

question Nathan - aren't the hubs covered by the rotors/rotor hats?
RJ you know I'm OCD like that.

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Here are a few before shots of the sub. All the edges were radius, debured and cleaned up.

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Some of this and some of that and......

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After 15 hours of work, she is now pretty clean. All the splatter has been removed, etc......


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After blasting and before powder coating.

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Nathan,

I have been following along with this thread, as well as your others, and am simply amazed with the amount of effort you are putting into this car. I really hope that once finished it performs to your satisfaction, or beyond, and stays in one piece. Because if not, well, I do not even want to think about that.

You certainly take, "Do it right the first time", to a WHOLE new level and I am proud that you chose the Camaro platform to do it with.

Keep up the good work, as I know you will, and I can not wait to see this car out on the track. I sure hope Road America is on your "Bucket List" because I would love to be there when you experience that track.

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Nathan did you plan on upgrading with 1LE hubs or stay stock until they crap out, thats my plan at least.
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Quick Update:

Removing Rear Sub Bushings and control arm bushings.

Here are a few pictures of the process my brother and I took to remove the rear bushings. This is by no means is the only way to do it or the easiest but being that my rear sub was out of the car, this is the way I did it.

To keep the upper control arm bracket from moving around while trying to cut out the bushing, Justin made a fixture to bolt it to.

Attachment 497909

Next we used a saw to cut the center section out.

Attachment 497910

Here is the center section from one of the sub frame bushings for reference. Similar to the control arm bushings.

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These bushings have an outer steel sleeve that has adhesive from the factory. We gave it some heat to loosen up the adhesive. The last step was to cut the steel outer ring very carefully as to not cut the housing (Picture not shown.) Next I hammer a screw driver to create a wedge between the sleeve and housing and worked it till the steel ring collapse on it self. I will say this was a PITA to do.

Attachment 497913

For the sub bushing the process was basically the same. After cutting out the center section, I broke off the edges of the bushing and the made two cuts with the saw-zall and pried it with the screw driver.

Attachment 497915

Finally got them all out.

Attachment 497916

If anybody has some tips for others on an easier way to remove these bushing, please post them as this seemed pretty barbaric way of doing them, LOL.
Looks great Nathan. I have done this same work on many Camaros. In my experience I have found a press works great on most of the bushing removal and a large sledge hammer will break apart and knock out the large sub-frame bushings.
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