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Old 04-10-2013, 11:20 PM   #35
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:58 PM   #36
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:19 AM   #37
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"3) Checkvalve to the TANK EVAP System to Keep boost out of the Tank"

Arno, why wasn't this addressed with my LFX/2012+ engine instructions? No one has answered this for me yet. No parts or instructions cover this step for my installation, as the thumb drive illustrations show an LLT and the set-up is different on the LFX. No response from Jesse at local IPF when I asked him.

Just curious. Because I paid for it.

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Old 04-11-2013, 05:35 AM   #38
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Hallo !

You should have this checkvalve here installed ... that is used to Keep boost out of the tank evap System !

see the checkvalve in the yellow ring !

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Old 04-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #39
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that is not located on the LFX....
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:02 AM   #40
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New question to the evap system...

Why not vent everything open air??? Plumb everything to a vented can to catch any drips and be on your way. Sure its not epa but none of our other mods are either. This would eliminate all questions of crank case venting and oil ingestion would it not?
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:06 AM   #41
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New question to the evap system...

Why not vent everything open air??? Plumb everything to a vented can to catch any drips and be on your way. Sure its not epa but none of our other mods are either. This would eliminate all questions of crank case venting and oil ingestion would it not?
Yes, but you would then have to deal with the smell and the smoke under your hood. That probably wouldn't be acceptable for most.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:08 AM   #42
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The IPF system works just fine, it is included in the kit and is hooked up for the V6 DI motors.

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However, if I am doing a V8 from scratch... This is how I have done it for years, same routing that ECS has done for years so why change what is not broke!

Intake Manifold to PCV Valve (Can't blow through PCV from Int Mani), to Norris Catch Can, Other side out to Valley Cover. Have the air filter fresh air inlet line going to front valve cover. Then use the ECS Breather cap (Filtered breather). This has worked fine at 15+ psi!

Over that, we open the breather system up even more... Instead of running the breathered cap, we run 2x -10AN weld bungs off each valve cover to a dual inlet vented can. Then we still use the Norris can with the PCV valve inline as to not boost the crankcase. You are dealing with a lot of boost at this point and you just cannot keep everything sealed up and need more evacuation so seals can live. For the vented cans we usually put them down near the bumper/head light area so you do not get the in-cabin smell through the cabin filter.

Both ways work perfectly, like I had said the first way is exactly how ECS had come up with.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:24 AM   #43
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Hallo !

You should have this checkvalve here installed ... that is used to Keep boost out of the tank evap System !

see the checkvalve in the yellow ring !

greets ASH@IPF-TUNING
Sycraft is correct. The schematic referred to in Arno's post is not applicable to the 2012+ LFX engine. My question remains.

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Old 04-11-2013, 11:14 AM   #44
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How about a picture?

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lol something about this thread just causes trouble I guess.

OP has an LLT. Thread is getting jacked again.
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Wow is all I can say ! This happens all the time !
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Sycraft is correct. The schematic referred to in Arno's post is not applicable to the 2012+ LFX engine. My question remains.

John B.
The LFX will not pressurize the EVAP, there is no vent like the LLT. The only check valve is for the brake booster
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:57 AM   #49
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Hello !

the LLT Bosch is shutting OFF the tank evap valve much too late .. so we placed the checkvalve into the vacuum line to the engine ...

the LFX is shutting OFF the tank evap valve at a high intake manifold pressure near athmosphare controlled by the MAP sensor .. so NO checkvalve for tank evap needed at LFX !

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Hello !

the LLT Bosch is shutting OFF the tank evap valve much too late .. so we placed the checkvalve into the vacuum line to the engine ...

the LFX is shutting OFF the tank evap valve at a high intake manifold pressure near athmosphare controlled by the MAP sensor .. so NO checkvalve for tank evap needed at LFX !

Greets ASH@IPF-TUNING
I which case the instructions for the 2012+ vehicles needs to be changed. This was a source of much confusion on my part when installing my system and no one came up with this answer until now.

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