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Old 04-11-2013, 03:18 PM   #1
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"Trackdays" and Z/28's

I am opening this new thread with a quote from another poster in a different thread who brought up a good point that some of you may not know about or understand: "Trackdays". If you have never participated in one, you cannot comprehend why the Z/28 was developed as it was.

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Because not all track driving is wheel to wheel competition and fighting for position/coaxing the other guy into making a mistake that lets you get past him, and the not-racing side of it seems to be growing. For example, NJMP here in NJ has been sending out direct advertising via email about driving your street car on their tracks with several dates planned. Approaching/entering Turn 7 on the 1.9 mile Lightning course shown below. Not all of the cars are street legal.

Think "run what you brung" open-tracking at slightly/somewhat less than 10/10ths, "point-by" passing on straights only, and where the cars out on the track during any given session would very likely never fit into the same competition class anyway. And although there generally isn't any official lap timing, most folks do like to pick up the pace as they gain experience.

Not everybody cares to then have to own a truck (that they'd at most rarely use otherwise), plus the trailer (ditto), and then find a place to park all three vehicles, which is what you'd be facing with operating a non street-legal track car.

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Good stuff for those who do not know.

Out west you can look up some of the following groups who will be glad to get you on track:

HOD Hooked on Driving
Speed Ventures
Porsche/Audi/BMW/Mini/Shelby/Lotus/etc Clubs
NASA
NCRC
Trackmaster
SCCA

I have instructed/TT/PDX'd with SCCA for several years, they have a great program to get you on a track in your car. PDX-"Performance Driving Experience", from there you can go into a TT- "Time Trials" group if you like where you run for best times while on track with other cars but you are not door to door racing.

Another good introduction is either the Corvette school at Spring Mountain in Pahrump NV or Porsche Sport Driving School outside of Birmingham AL. Both are awesome sport driving schools. Attend one if you really want to learn how to drive.

Track days are like crack cocaine, only legal, healthier and more fun. I think crack might be cheaper though.

If you have any thought to buy a Z/28 and not track it, that's like marrying the person of your dreams and not having sex with them. It would be ridiculous and there is simply no good excuse for it.

It is a purpose built car to do this sort of thing, engine power is at least fourth on the list of what's important behind 1. Your skill 2. Brakes 3. Handling/Suspension.

For those who decide to explore trackdays it'll be the most fun hobby you ever have.
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If you have never participated in one, you cannot comprehend why the Z/28 was developed as it was.

:high five: You are the torch bearer, my man.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:42 PM   #3
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HPDEs are salve for the soul...

For you NorEasterners, don't forget the track Ron Fellows has an interest in and is in the midst of redoing for a Craftsman Truck race, later this year: Mosport
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Agreed, track days are addicting. I'm heading back to Sebring Saturday for one. Where else can you go as fast as can or feel comfortable doing and not get arrested. I'm usually the only one or one of a couple Camaros out there. Come on guys. Sad part is I don't think the Z28 is going to change that.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:14 PM   #5
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Track days are a blast. I have done a few at Road Atlanta with Chin Motorsports, one at Roebling Road with MTI Racing, and one at Atlanta Motorsports Park with MTI. Words can't describe how much fun it is, and how much you progress each time out. Of course with improvement comes more and more mods! I just wish I could get to more of them, and hope to get in a few more this year.

It is a shame that more Camaro owners are not taking advantage of tracking their cars at these events. At Road Atlanta there has only been one more Camaro there, and sometimes none.

We are putting on a Camaro Corral at Road Atlanta next weekend (19th & 20) at the Grand Am race and I am hoping this will inspire few more Camaros around here to come have some fun. We have a parade lap on Friday and Grand Am is working on some hot lap passes as well. Hopefully it will leave a few guys and girls wanting more.
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...If you have any thought to buy a Z/28 and not track it, that's like marrying the person of your dreams and not having sex with them. It would be ridiculous and there is simply no good excuse for it....
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If you have any thought to buy a Z/28 and not track it, that's like marrying the person of your dreams and not having sex with them. It would be ridiculous and there is simply no good excuse for it.
Very well put!

I simply cannot understand how someone would buy this car and not take it to the track. That's what it's made for. Would you buy golf clubs and never play golf? Install a swimming pool and not swim? Buy an airplane and never fly it? This is a track car. Take it to the track!
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...although I do have a neighbor with a DD '12 Porsche GT3 RS...and it hasn't been on a track...

Some folks just wanna enjoy their vehicles THEIR way. Sinatra/Anka made a fortune from a song along those lines.
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...although I do have a neighbor with a DD '12 Porsche GT3 RS...and it hasn't been on a track...
Considering Zfatuated's analogy perhaps you should go see if his wife needs some attention
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Track days are like crack cocaine, only legal, healthier and more fun. I think crack might be cheaper though.

If you have any thought to buy a Z/28 and not track it, that's like marrying the person of your dreams and not having sex with them. It would be ridiculous and there is simply no good excuse for it.
I actually think both of these are good lines. The first actually dovetails nicely with my sig.

One nice thing about the new Z/28 is that it will be street legal so we could drive it to the track without the need to trailer it, major bonus.

As one who tracks here in the Midwest at Autobahn CC and Road America I can not wait to see this thing hit the track. Personally I would like a test drive on the track and I am sure some of you would too. I started a thread to this extent and if you agree please chime in.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286856

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Considering Zfatuated's analogy perhaps you should go see if his wife needs some attention
Well...there WAS that marriage of Anna Nicole and the old guy...
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Very well put!

I simply cannot understand how someone would buy this car and not take it to the track. That's what it's made for. Would you buy golf clubs and never play golf? Install a swimming pool and not swim? Buy an airplane and never fly it? This is a track car. Take it to the track!
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Considering Zfatuated's analogy perhaps you should go see if his wife needs some attention

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Well...there WAS that marriage of Anna Nicole and the old guy...
He kept her in perfect condition, she had to be passed down to his grandchildren...
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He kept her in perfect condition, she had to be passed down to his grandchildren...
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Got my ZL1 to enjoy on the street, no plan on going to the track really unless it's to kick around with my brother who has a 2004 Z06.

I agree with everyone here, you don't buy a car to park it anymore. Look at the generations before us? Do they ever express regret about keeping their 'Cuda's? Chevelles? Camaros? Etc, you get the point. They bought them and drove the wheels off em and sold em.

Cars are made to be driven. Especially the Z/28.
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Anna Nicole...the ULTIMATE GARAGE QUEEN...

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Agreed, track days are addicting. I'm heading back to Sebring Saturday for one. Where else can you go as fast as can or feel comfortable doing and not get arrested. I'm usually the only one or one of a couple Camaros out there. Come on guys. Sad part is I don't think the Z28 is going to change that.
I agree, I was able to spend two days on the Sebring Track with the National Corvette Museum HPDE at the end of March. Wonderful instructors and a great experience. If get a chance to track your car, do it and enjoy what your car can really do.
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