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Old 04-12-2013, 01:52 PM   #171
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IMHO there seems to be more weight loss that can be done to the Z/28 but i would imagine that they (GM) thought any more than what they have presented would be a little bit too far. If you don't get why there are less features in this car, or care what your friends will think, or some random person your dating about the price and lack of features,


DON'T BUY ONE.

to eliminate those features would require new components - many of which would have to be validated one way or another -- which is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Someone said they'd rather have the 454 -- well -- you can do that! I suggest a 1LE and then put the crate engine in it!
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Old 04-12-2013, 01:57 PM   #172
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I'd much rather have an 18" wheel option. Better and more R comp tire options, which are cheaper in 18" as well.
IF 18" is enough to clear the calipers.
Generally speaking, rotor OD + 3.5", rounded to the next bigger whole inch is as tight as you can fit any wheel that isn't intended for mounting drag-race skinnies on.


FWIW, I'd rather have the 1LE's balance than the ZL1's forced induction.


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Old 04-12-2013, 03:09 PM   #173
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FWIW, I'd rather have the 1LE's balance than the ZL1's forced induction.
Once again, agree with you.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:20 PM   #174
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I agree. I was thinking about not getting the AC, but I live in central Florida and if its going to be my daily driver that would be a mistake for me.
Yeah, but it's a dry heat.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:07 PM   #175
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Yeah, but it's a dry heat.
Pshhh, yeah, I wish it was a dry heat. We had 98% humidity today. I walked from my truck to my house and back and was drenched lol
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Pshhh, yeah, I wish it was a dry heat. We had 98% humidity today. I walked from my truck to my house and back and was drenched lol
That's why I left Florida 4 years ago. I was done. Spent 22 years there.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:26 PM   #177
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That's why I left Florida 4 years ago. I was done. Spent 22 years there.
I hear ya.

Only other place I've ever wanted to live is Tennessee lol. Other than the weather, Florida is my favorite state
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #178
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I lived in Destin for 7 years. It was great, but I'd rather live near the mountains (better weather) and vacation at the beach.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:31 AM   #179
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Z/28 should be able to be had with no radio, no power anything, no heater, no a/c, no carpet, no sound deadening, and lexan windows

In my opinion
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Seriously is it really that hard to have an aftermarket stereo added? I hear it happens all the time.
And is it that difficult to check the box that says AC?

Besides those 2 things what else does anyone need?
That's true Chance, and the bluetooth stuff, cruise control, and OnStar amenities can be 86'd from the car as well I feel. The steering wheel on the proto Z/28 still has the stock ZL1 with those control switches. We need one cleaned up sans the switches. No time, or need, to have those things when wheeling the Z/28 around. Don't need directions, cruise control, or hands free calling pulling 1.OMG G hot laps.....
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:08 AM   #181
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Z/28 should be able to be had with no radio, no power anything, no heater, no a/c, no carpet, no sound deadening, and lexan windows

In my opinion
I don't think lexan windows are street legal.
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Chances are that to get the weight down far enough to where no power assists was realistic, the car wouldn't have a VIN for several reasons.

Never mind that without at least some thin carpeting you wouldn't want to drive it very far unless you were wearing a helmet anyway.


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Old 04-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #183
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That's true Chance, and the bluetooth stuff, cruise control, and OnStar amenities can be 86'd from the car as well I feel. The steering wheel on the proto Z/28 still has the stock ZL1 with those control switches. We need one cleaned up sans the switches. No time, or need, to have those things when wheeling the Z/28 around. Don't need directions, cruise control, or hands free calling pulling 1.OMG G hot laps.....
Road Atlanta is less than 30 minutes from me and the mountains are all around. All that's missing is...
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #184
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I don't think lexan windows are street legal.
There is a company that makes a coating that can make it pass the abrasion tests. But that is more $$. I think the thinner glass is the best of both worlds.

Also some convertibles have plastic rear windows that yellow over time. I don't believe GM does this for that simple reason.

Keep in mind there are some things GM has to have because it has them on other vehicles. You can remove a lot of things, but simply removing everything is not practicle.

Yes, you could take even more stuff out/off. That isn't the issue.

Take the window regulator for example. To engineer, test/validate a manual crank window would easy to do. And yes you could spend the additional money to tool up that crank window. And then if you divide the cost of the engineering, testing and tooling by whatever number of Z/28s you expect to sell you will find that you just added another $XX to the cost of the car AND you would have a door that wouldn't close because the Camaro was designed with indexing glass so that at high speeds (say those seen at a track day) the window will stay sealed. So now GM would have to engineer an entirely new door seal just for the Z/28 to have manual windows. And that is wayyyyy more than $XX. And what would you have saved for that? The weight of two small power window motors that weigh no more than a few pounds. And you would be adding back in two cranks.

Just know there is much more to this "how much can you take out" game than meets the eye. It's not as easy as you all think.
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What would be the weight savings in replacing the front fenders with carbon fibre ones?
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Well said I could not agree more with what you said. I just wish they would have taken it even farther with overall weight reduction. Never the less a great platform to build upon.
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:18 PM   #187
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What would be the weight savings in replacing the front fenders with carbon fibre ones?
Carbon Fiber has a density of 83 lb/cuft. Steel is around 500 lb/cuft. So roughly 16% of steel.

Not sure what a Camaro fender weighs.

Could Google the weight of the Z06 front fenders and come close. Those I worked on.
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